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Mysterious New Jersey drone sightings prompt call for 'state of emergency'
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#152Earlier quoted context omitted.
At least 6 out of 10 images in the linked article are clearly commercial aircraft.
And those other 4 out of 10 are very clearly not commercial airlines. I live in NJ was very skeptical of this at first, but after seeing the same patterns 5 nights in a row for aircrafts not going towards Newark, I really have a hard time believing it is simply airlines.
There is supposed to be an elemwent of 'mimicry' on the part of the Phenomenon. Kelleher in his work with AAWSAP was the most vocal in studying & concluding that aspect:
https://www.rdrnews.com/opinion/columnists/drones-mimicry-an...
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#153Re: Mysterious New Jersey drone sightings prompt call for 'state of emergency'
#154Earlier quoted context omitted.
Some action is already being taken; supposedly the GREMLIN program is being rolled out in areas where sightings are most common: https://taskandpurpose.com/news/military-ufo-gremlin/ > If no joy on ECW, disassemble them in the sky. I disagree, for the same reason the US doesn't send an SM-6 up to greet every plane without an IFF turned on. It's an expensive exercise in endangering human lives, not a valiant defense o…
F-16 seems like overkill for a drone. Send up the Apaches. Let's not forget it took how many sidewinders to take down the Chinese balloon? More than 1 makes someone look foolish.
You send in a supersonic fighter because no conventional drone is going to escape it. Dogfighting it isn't necessary, it's doubtful they'd detect you at all if your fighter is loitering at 10,000ft. Eventually the drone is going to run out of power, and you can keep sending more fighters to relieve whichever jet is on duty (if necessary).
Apaches are cool and all, but if cost is your concern then it's probably cheaper to send a single pilot in a single-seat F-16 even if the avgas costs more. Even if you gotta wait 4 hours for your target to go home, it's still probably cheaper than a single AMRAAM.
Re: Mysterious New Jersey drone sightings prompt call for 'state of emergency'
#155I fly drones, sometimes even to me a drone can look suspiciously unnatural. Especially at night the way the drone moves abruptly with all the led lights, its difficult to judge its distance.
But ... what if Aliens and Ghosts are the same thing? DaDaDa!
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#156The photos I've seen posted look very obviously like commercial airliners and helicopters with their navigation lights on. You can even make out the American Airlines livery on the tail! https://www.app.com/story/news/local/new-jersey/2024/12/11/d...
What blows my mind, is that damn near every single person seeing this has a phone that can record video, and the best we can do is grainy night pictures. I mean fucking hell we've got people in this thread saying "yeah but they don't move like that" ,which fine, cool, and yet somehow the only stuff circulating is pictures? This whole thing reeks of overreaction to something small signal boosted by filtering of bad da…
Take the drone, leave the Cannoli
Re: Mysterious New Jersey drone sightings prompt call for 'state of emergency'
#157The photos I've seen posted look very obviously like commercial airliners and helicopters with their navigation lights on. You can even make out the American Airlines livery on the tail! https://www.app.com/story/news/local/new-jersey/2024/12/11/d...
I have had a bet going with two of my friends on this exact point for almost a week now, and the fact that it is _still_ not been resolved by any agency is insane. I also have a couple friends who work at Picatinny as well, and have heard that their civilian security have spotted some (which is strange since their airspace is always restricted), but there haven't been any internal memos regarding them. Some things I'…
>not all planes that fly need to have flight plans and transponders
Technically true but since 2020 almost all aircraft are required to have transponders to fly in controlled airspace. You could have a small GA aircraft without a transponder and only fly in and out of small uncontrolled air strips, but in practice most aircraft are going to have ADS-B out now.
https://www.faa.gov/air_traffic/technology/equipadsb/researc...
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#158Reminds me of the Chinese balloon incident of 2023 [1]
Unsubstantiated theory, but maybe a foreign adversary scanning ground for targets? Critical east coast transmission lines and substations in NJ possibly a target?
[1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_Chinese_balloon_inciden...
Re: Mysterious New Jersey drone sightings prompt call for 'state of emergency'
#159Earlier quoted context omitted.
At least 6 out of 10 images in the linked article are clearly commercial aircraft.
And those other 4 out of 10 are very clearly not commercial airlines. I live in NJ was very skeptical of this at first, but after seeing the same patterns 5 nights in a row for aircrafts not going towards Newark, I really have a hard time believing it is simply airlines.
Stop believing your lying eyes for they deceive you.
Here, read this, it will calm your nerves.
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#160A lot of people here are writing this off as hysteria.
I don't know if this is anything nefarious or not, but I would note that being suspicious of these things is often a good thing, not a bad thing.
Even Michael Shermer, the famed skeptic, wrote a book on how suspecting conspiracy is often a valid default stance. Abstract from his book:
"One reason that people believe these conspiracies, Shermer argues, is that enough of them are real that we should be constructively conspiratorial: elections have been rigged (LBJ's 1948 Senate race); medical professionals have intentionally harmed patients in their care (Tuskegee); your government does lie to you (Watergate, Iran-Contra, and Afghanistan)"
There are obviously people that always suspect conspiracy, and that's not good. But it's equally not good to always suspect a benign explanation, which is the majority of this thread.
Just adding a different perspective to this community.