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Gemini 2.0: our new AI model for the agentic era

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Re: Gemini 2.0: our new AI model for the agentic era

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Post by CamperBob2 »

p1esk wrote: post #13
bradhilton wrote: post #6

Beats Gemini 1.5 Pro at all but two of the listed benchmarks. Google DeepMind is starting to get their bearings in the LLM era. These are the minds behind AlphaGo/Zero/Fold. They control their own hardware destiny with TPUs. Bullish.

Are these benchmarks still meaningful?

I've started keeping an eye out for original brainteasers, just for that reason. GCHQ's Christmas puzzle just came out [1], and o1-pro got 6 out of 7 of them right. It took about 20 minutes in total.

I wasn't going to bother trying those because I was pretty sure it wouldn't get any of them, but decided to give it an easy one (#4) and was impressed at the CoT.

Meanwhile, Google's newest 2.0 Flash model went 0 for 7.

1: https://metro.co.uk/2024/12/11/gchq-christmas-puzzle-2024-re...

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Post by mfonda »

Does anyone have any insights into how Google selects source material for AI overviews? I run an educational site with lots of excellent information, but it seems to have been passed over entirely for AI overviews. With these becoming an increasingly large part of search--and from the sound of it, now more so with Gemini 2.0--this has me a little worried.

Anyone else run into similar issues or have any tips?

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Post by machiaweliczny »

onlyrealcuzzo wrote: post #237
CSMastermind wrote: post #173

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's almost word for word what people said about Windows Phone when I was at Microsoft.

But Windows Phone was actually good, like Xune, it was just late, and it was incredibly popular to hate Microsoft at the time. Additionally, Microsoft didn't really have any advantage in the smart phone space. Google is already a product the majority of people on the planet use regularly to answer questions. That seems like a competitive advantage to me.

Yeah, I liked my windows phone, not sure why they killed it

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Post by mannycalavera42 »

egeozcan wrote: post #158
StableAlkyne wrote: post #152

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Remains to be seen how well they will be able to productize and market The challenge is trust. Google is one of the leaders in AI and are home to incredibly talented developers. But they also have an incredibly bad track record of supporting their products. It's hard to justify committing developers and money to a product when there's a good chance you'll just have to pivot again once they get bored. Say what you w…

> they also have an incredibly bad track record of supporting their products Incredibly bad track record of supporting products that don't grow . I'm not saying this to defend Google, I'm still (perhaps unreasonably) angry because of Reader, it's just that there is a pattern and AI isn't likely to fit that for a long while.

not going to miss the opportunity to upvote on the grief of having lost Reader

Re: Gemini 2.0: our new AI model for the agentic era

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Post by pcwelder »

simonw wrote: post #113

I released a new llm-gemini plugin with support for the Gemini 2.0 Flash model, here's how to use that in the terminal: llm install -U llm-gemini llm -m gemini-2.0-flash-exp 'prompt goes here' LLM installation: https://llm.datasette.io/en/stable/setup.html Worth noting that the Gemini models have the ability to write and then execute Python code. I tried that like this: llm -m gemini-2.0-flash-exp -o code_execution 1…

Code execution is okay, but soon runs into the problem of missing packages that it can't install.

Practically, sandboxing hasn't been super important for me. Running claude with mcp based shell access has been working fine for me, as long as you instruct it to use venv, temporary directory, etc.

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Post by surajrmal »

tbarbugli wrote: post #221
crazygringo wrote: post #177

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> and Google has been famously bad at getting people aligned and driving in one direction. To be fair, it's not that they're bad at it -- it's that they generally have an explicit philosophy against it. It's a choice. Google management doesn't want to "pick winners". It prefers to let multiple products (like messaging apps, famously) compete and let the market decide. According to this way of thinking, you come out a…

Google is not winning on cloud, AWS is winning and MS gaining ground.

Parent didn't claim Google is winning. Only that there is a cohesive push and investment in a single product/platform.

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Post by strongpigeon »

strongpigeon wrote: post #213

Did anyone get to play with the native image generation part? In my experience, Imagen 3 was much better than the competition so I'm curious to hear people's take on this one.

Hrm, when I tried to get it to generate an image it said it was using Imagen 3. Not sure what “native” image generation means then.

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Post by pkkkzip »

serjester wrote: post #183

Buried in the announcement is the real gem — they’re releasing a new SDK that actually looks like it follows modern best practices. Could be a game-changer for usability. They’ve had OpenAI-compatible endpoints for a while, but it’s never been clear how serious they were about supporting them long-term. Nice to see another option showing up. For reference, their main repo (not kidding) recommends setting up a Kuberne…

its interesting that just as the LLM hype appears to be simmering down, DeepMind is making big strides. I'm more excited by this than any of OpenAI's announcements.

Re: Gemini 2.0: our new AI model for the agentic era

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Post by fluoridation »

Fidelix wrote: post #250
fluoridation wrote: post #220

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That doesn't constitute support when it comes to development platforms. They've not received any updates in years or decades. What they've done is simply not remove the capability build capability from the toolchains. That is, not even the work that would be required to no longer support them in any way. Compare that to C#, which has evolved rapidly over the same time period.

That's different from "killing" the product / technology, which is what Google does.

Only because they operate different businesses. Google is primarily a service provider. They have few software products that are not designed to integrate with their servers. Many of Microsoft's businesses work fundamentally differently. There's nothing Microsoft could do to Windows to disable all MFC applications and only MFC applications, and if there was it would involve more work than simply not doing anything else with MFC.
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