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Post by wavewrangler »

God. These AI tools are really showing just how f’d up people are. AI is a scapegoat for the absurdity of society. We are a a scourge! Well, aren’t we? Look at what we’re doing and the way we use this to instinctively conduct psychological warfare on each other! People are facetious. People will kill each other, and people want to lie, steal, and cheat. God almighty. How depressing…

This is a problem that highlights the apparent either lack of effect, or lack of care for, consequences, period. The current consequences in place to deter this abysmal and abhorrent behavior simply aren’t enough. I look around and the world is going nuts, and failing, it seems, to attribute the cause with the effect. Shitty people doing shitty things. We don’t need new laws or regulations, when people aren’t willing or able to abide by the ones currently in place! What good will that do?

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Post by bcye »

xvector wrote: post #511
hmmm-i-wonder wrote: post #349

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I'm not in the EU, but when I see something that is US only, I tend to assume its doing something with privacy/user data/otherwise that is restricted in the EU. Which means I generally avoid things that are not EU available even if they are available to me. Its not 100% but its a fairly decent measure of how much companies care about users to ensure they meet EU privacy laws from the start, vs if they provide some li…

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This is quite an exaggeration. Afaik there has been only a single GDPR fine over 1 billion € (Meta) and for some reason Apple seems to manage just fine (with GDPR).

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Post by shlomo_z »

robomartin wrote: post #514

Here's something I find interesting: We have multiple paid accounts with OpenAI. In other words, we are paying customers. I have yet to see a single announcement or new development that we learn about through email. In most cases we learn these things when they get covered by some online outfit, posted on HN, etc. OpenAI isn't the only company that seems to act in this manner. I find this to be interesting. Your payi…

Yes, they do seem to take your business for granted. In my case, I will keep paying for it. I need OpenAI's tools more than OpenAI needs my business, and probably yours too.

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Post by jasinjames »

superfrank wrote: post #420
lelandfe wrote: post #285

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I saw my first AI video that completely fooled commenters: https://imgur.com/a/cbjVKMU This was not marked as AI-generated and commenters were in awe at this fuzzy train, missing the "AIGC" signs. I'm quite nervous for the future.

I know there are people acting like this is obvious that this is AI, but I get why people wouldn't catch it, even if they know that AI is capable of creating a video like this. A) Most of the give aways are pretty subtle and not what viewers are focused on. Sure, if you look closely the fur blends in with the pavement in some places, but I'm not going to spend 5 minutes investigating every video I see for hints of AI…

I agree. Also, tangentially related: I use a black and white filter on my phone, and it is way harder to distinguish fake and real media without the color channels to help. I couldn't immediately find anything in the subway clip which gave it away.

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Post by lmm »

boznz wrote: post #644
makeitdouble wrote: post #626

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Is this a "guns don't kill" argument ? Microsoft Word and Excel aren't generative tools. If Excel added a new headline feature to scan your financial sheets and auto-adjust the numbers to match what's expected when audited, you bet there would be backlash. And regarding scrutiny, morphine is a immensely usefulness tool and it's use surely extremely monitored. On the general point, our society values intent. Tools can…

> If Excel added a new headline feature to scan your financial sheets and auto-adjust the numbers to match what's expected when audited - Sounds like what my accountant already does.

Right, but accountants have qualifications and, more importantly, have to sign their name and accept liability for the accounts they're submitting. That's the part that's missing when "computer says ok".

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Post by slightwinder »

tim333 wrote: post #570
starshadowx2 wrote: post #309

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The face of the girl on the left at the start in the first second should have been a giveaway.

Also "HELLO KITTY" being backwards is odd - writting on trains doesn't normally come out like that eg https://www.groupe-sncf.com/medias-publics/styles/crop_1_1/p...

All the text is mirrored. It's not unusual doing this to avoid copyright-filters. This kinda adds to distracting suspicions.

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Post by lmm »

GuardianCaveman wrote: post #612
observationist wrote: post #461

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Funny how all the negative uses to which something like this might be put are regulated or criminalized already - if you try to scam someone, commit libel or defamation, attempt widespread fraud, or any of a million nefarious uses, you'll get fined, sued, or go to jail. Would you want Microsoft to claim they're responsible for the "safety" of what you write with Word? For the legality of the numbers you're punching i…

I can write an erotic fiction about your husband or wife or son or daughter in microsoft word, but it's a little different if I scrape their profiles and turn it into hardcore porn and distribute it to their classmates coworkers isn't it?

But you can do that without using AI, and we have laws (harassment etc.) that apply. So where does AI come into the equation?

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Post by Liquix »

amzn-throw wrote: post #488
tom1337 wrote: post #190

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Same goes with DALLE. It was cool to try it the first week or so but now the output is so much worse than Midjourney and stable diffusion. For me it can’t even generate straight lines and everything looks comic-ish.

To me this is just a simple artifact of size & attention. Another example of this is stuff like Bluesky. There's a lot of reasons to hate Twitter/X, but people going "Wow, Bluesky is so amazing, there's no ads and it's so much less toxic!" aren't complimenting Bluesky, they're just noting that it's smaller, has less attention, and so they don't have ads or the toxic masses YET. GenAI image generation is an obvious ve…

>OpenAI and Google have to be extraordinarily strict

Why? Did the inventors of VHS tapes "have to be extraordinarily strict" and bake in safeguards because people might violate copyright laws, make porn, or tape something illegal?

Enforcing laws is the responsibility of the legal system. It sets a concerning precedent when companies like OAI would rather lobotomize their flagship products than risk them generating any Wrongthink.

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