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Wish they’d followed their previous MO of releasing stuff with no warning or buildup. Results won’t match the hype.

They're already too slow. Hunyuan Video came out a few days ago and beats them on every metric.

Hunyuan is 100% open source and it's set to become the Stable Diffusion / Flux of AI video.

https://github.com/Tencent/HunyuanVideo/

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If you can build a system that can generate engaging games and movies, from an economic (bubble popping or not popping) point of view it's largely irrelevant whether they conform to fine-grained specifications by a human or not.

Text generation is the most mature form of genAI and even that isn't even remotely close to producing infinite engaging stories. Adding the visual aspect to make that story into a movie or the interactive element to turn it into a game is only uphill from there.

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If you're going to say something like this, you need to back it up with specific alternatives that provide a better result. Besides just citing your sources, I'm genuinely curious what the best ones are for this so I can see the competition :)

HunYuan released by Tencent [1] is much better than Sora. It's 100% open source, is compatible with fine tuning, ComfyUI, control nets, and is receiving lots of active development. That's not the only open video model, either. Lightricks' LTX, Genmo's Mochi, and Black Forest Labs' upcoming models will all be open source video foundation models. Sora is commoditized like Dall-E at this point. Video will be dominated b…

RunwayML too but not sure they also won't get commoditized by OSS video generation.

Re: Sora is here

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“The version of Sora we are deploying has many limitations. It often generates unrealistic physics and struggles with complex actions over long durations. Although Sora Turbo is much faster than the February preview, we’re still working to make the technology affordable for everyone.” So they demo the full model and release the quantised and censored model. Does anyone else find this kind of bait & switch distasteful…

You don't need to worry. Open source video is already pulling ahead of closed source.

Hunyuan [1] is better than Sora Turbo and is 100% open source. It's got fine tuning code, LoRA training code, multiple modalities, controlnets, ComfyUI compatibility, and is rapidly growing an ecosystem around it.

Hunyuan is going to be the Stable Diffusion / Flux for video, and that doesn't bode well for Sora. Nobody even uses Dall-E in conversation anymore, and I expect the same to hold true for closed source foundation video models.

And if one company developing foundation video models in the open isn't good enough, then Lightricks' LTX and Genmo's Mochi should provide additional reassurance that this is going to be commoditized and made readily available to everyone.

I've even heard from the Banodoco [2] grapevine that Meta is considering releasing their foundation video model as open source.

[1] https://github.com/Tencent/HunyuanVideo/

[2] Banodoco is one of the best communities for open source foundation AI video; https://banodoco.ai/

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The face of the girl on the left at the start in the first second should have been a giveaway.

Also "HELLO KITTY" being backwards is odd - writting on trains doesn't normally come out like that eg https://www.groupe-sncf.com/medias-publics/styles/crop_1_1/p...

The whole video was probably mirrored before being posted. Doesn't seem to be related to being AI generated.

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I'm not in the EU, but when I see something that is US only, I tend to assume its doing something with privacy/user data/otherwise that is restricted in the EU. Which means I generally avoid things that are not EU available even if they are available to me. Its not 100% but its a fairly decent measure of how much companies care about users to ensure they meet EU privacy laws from the start, vs if they provide some li…

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If this slop is what you consider a revolution, I dread to see what else the SV visionaries come up with next. Perhaps some iris scans in exchange for fake digital currency? Oh wait, Mr Worldcoin Altman already got us covered there!

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a somewhat counterintuitive argument is this: AI models will make the overall creative landscape more diverse and interesting, ie, less "average"! Imagine the space of ideas as a circle, with stuff in the middle being more easy to reach (the "cliched average"). Previously, traversing the circle was incredibly hard - we had to use tools like DeviantArt, Instragram, etc to agglomerate the diverse tastes of artists, hop…

To extend the analogy, imagine the circle as a probability distribution; for simplicity, imagine it's a bivariate normal joint distribution (aka. Gaussian in 3D) + some noise, and you're above it and looking down. When you're commissioning an artist to make you some art, you're basically sampling from the entire distribution. Stuff in the middle is, as you say, easiest to reach, so that's what you'll most likely get.…

I like the picture, but I'd be more impressed with the exploration argument if we were collectively actually doing a good job giving recognition to original and substantial works that already exist. It'd be of greater service in that regard to create a high-quality artificial stand-in for that limited-quantity "attention" and "engagement" all the bloodsuckers seem so keen on harvesting.

(And I do blame the advertisers, but frankly anyone handing them new amplifiers, with entirely predictable consequences, is also not blameless.)

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Users, not tools, should be judged. It is unlikely anyone is going to perform act of terrorism with this, or any kind of deep fakes that buy Easter European elections. The worst outcome is likely teens having a laugh.

Funny how all the negative uses to which something like this might be put are regulated or criminalized already - if you try to scam someone, commit libel or defamation, attempt widespread fraud, or any of a million nefarious uses, you'll get fined, sued, or go to jail. Would you want Microsoft to claim they're responsible for the "safety" of what you write with Word? For the legality of the numbers you're punching i…

I disagree. Analogous would be how we have very limited regulations on guns, but you can’t just have a tank, fighter jet, or ICBM.

Some tools are a lot more powerful than others and we have to take special care with them.

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Every day that passes I grow fonder of Google's decision to delay or otherwise keep a lot of this under the wraps. The other day I was scrolling down on YouTube shorts and a couple videos invoked an uncanny valley response from me (I think it was a clip of an unrealistically large snake covering some hut) which was somehow fascinating and strange and captivating, and then scrolling down a few more, again I saw someth…

I wish Google would allow me to remove the AI stuff from search results. 99% of the times it's either useless or wrong.

you can block is with Ublock Origin

https://www.reddit.com/r/uBlockOrigin/comments/1ct5mpt/heres...

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