That's now how the world is supposed to work, I wonder if there is going to be long-term psychological effects if being exposed to videos like these regularly. If our neurons are unable to receive a stable stream of reality like we have for millions of years will our brains become dysfunctional over time?
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#552Earlier quoted context omitted.
a somewhat counterintuitive argument is this: AI models will make the overall creative landscape more diverse and interesting, ie, less "average"! Imagine the space of ideas as a circle, with stuff in the middle being more easy to reach (the "cliched average"). Previously, traversing the circle was incredibly hard - we had to use tools like DeviantArt, Instragram, etc to agglomerate the diverse tastes of artists, hop…
And as AI oversaturates the cliched average, creators will have to get further and further away from the average to differentiate themselves. If you pour a lot of work into your creation you want to make it clear that it isn't some cliched AI drivel.
You will basically have to provide a video showcasing your workflow.
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#553> We’re introducing our video generation technology now to give society time to explore its possibilities and co-develop norms and safeguards that ensure it’s used responsibly as the field advances. That's an interesting way of saying "we're probably gonna miss some stuff in our safety tools, so hopefully society picks up the slack for us". :)
Users, not tools, should be judged. It is unlikely anyone is going to perform act of terrorism with this, or any kind of deep fakes that buy Easter European elections. The worst outcome is likely teens having a laugh.
> no one is going to perform act of terrorism with this
Especially certain someone that’s worth a billion dollars, is 100 years old and their name ends with inc.
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#554what in particular is better as about this than
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#555Earlier quoted context omitted.
Funny how all the negative uses to which something like this might be put are regulated or criminalized already - if you try to scam someone, commit libel or defamation, attempt widespread fraud, or any of a million nefarious uses, you'll get fined, sued, or go to jail. Would you want Microsoft to claim they're responsible for the "safety" of what you write with Word? For the legality of the numbers you're punching i…
> Would you want Microsoft to claim they're responsible for the "safety" of what you write with Word? For the legality of the numbers you're punching into an Excel spreadsheet? Would you want Verizon keeping tabs on every word you say, to make sure it's in line with their corporate ethos? Would you want DuPont to check the toxicity of Teflon effluents they're releasing in your neighbourhood? That's insane. It's peopl…
Yes, because we know a.) that the toxicity exists and b.) how to test for it.
There is no definition of a "safe" model without significant controversy nor is there any standardized test for it. There are other reasons why that is a terrible analogy, but this is probably the most important.
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#556> We’re introducing our video generation technology now to give society time to explore its possibilities and co-develop norms and safeguards that ensure it’s used responsibly as the field advances. That's an interesting way of saying "we're probably gonna miss some stuff in our safety tools, so hopefully society picks up the slack for us". :)
Specially since they were originally supposed to be a non-profit focused on AI safety and Sam Altman single-handedly pivoting to a for-profit after taking all the donations and partnering with probably the single most evil corporation that has ever existed, Microsoft.
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#557The mammoths are walking over some pre-existing footprints, but they don't leave any prints of their own. I guess I'm getting hung up on little things. For a prompt of a few words, it looks pretty nice!
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#558Earlier quoted context omitted.
I disagree. Even without exactness, adding any reasonable constraints is impossible. Ask it to generate a realistic circuit diagram or chess board or any other thing where precision matters. Good luck going back and forth getting it right. These are situations with relatively simple logical constraints, but an infinite number of valid solutions. Keep in mind that we are not requiring any particular configuration of c…
That's using the wrong tool for a job :). Asking diffusion models to give you a valid circuit diagram is like asking a painter to paint you pixel-perfect 300DPI image on a regular canvas, using their standard paintbrush. It ain't gonna work. That doesn't mean it can't work with AI - it's that you may need to add something extra to the generative pipeline, something that can do circuit diagrams, and make the diffusion…
The issue isn’t any particular constraint. The issue is the inability to add any constraints at all.
In particular, internal consistency is one of the important constraints which viewers will immediately notice. If you’re just using sora for 5 second unrelated videos it may be less of an issue but if you want to do anything interesting you’ll need the clips to tie together which requires internal consistency.
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#559Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Would you want Microsoft to claim they're responsible for the "safety" of what you write with Word? For the legality of the numbers you're punching into an Excel spreadsheet? Would you want Verizon keeping tabs on every word you say, to make sure it's in line with their corporate ethos? Would you want DuPont to check the toxicity of Teflon effluents they're releasing in your neighbourhood? That's insane. It's peopl…
Yes, because we know a.) that the toxicity exists and b.) how to test for it. There is no definition of a "safe" model without significant controversy nor is there any standardized test for it. There are other reasons why that is a terrible analogy, but this is probably the most important.
It's called Overton window what's politically acceptable. Unlike toxicity, it is fully subjective.
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#560I've found using these and similar tools that the amount of prompts and iteration required to create my vision (image or video in my mind) is very large and often is not able to create what I had originally wanted. A way to test this is to take a piece of footage or an image which is the ground truth, and test how much prompting and editing it takes to get the same or similar ground truth starting from scratch. It is…
The adage "a picture is worth a thousand words" has the nice corollary "A thousand words isn't enough to be precise about an image". Now expand that to movies and games and you can get why this whole generative-AI bubble is going to pop.
Maybe your AI bubble! If you define AI to be something like just another programming language yes you will be sadly disappointed. You see it as an employee with its own intuitions and ways of doing things that you're trying to micromanage.
I have a bad feeling that you'd be a horrible manager if you ever were one.