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Show HN: Cut the crap – remove AI bullshit from websites

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Re: Show HN: Cut the crap – remove AI bullshit from websites

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There’s an interesting hypothetical situation here:

Let’s say that use of AI generated SEO to game search and recommendation algorithms become very widespread. This drives adoption of summarizers because reading these articles is a chore.

The result is that there a whole big chunk of “shadow-text” going unread by users BUT is still being used to drive ranking and discoverability.

There’s essentially a divorce between “content used to rank” and “content delivered to the user”, which could result in a couple different outcomes:

- search is forced to adapt in a way that brings these into alignment, so ranking is driven by the content people want to see and isn’t easily gamed

- SEO is allowed to get really, really weird because you can throw whatever text you want in there knowing that users will never see it

Re: Show HN: Cut the crap – remove AI bullshit from websites

#52

Say what you will, this “AI” hype has top-notch entertainment value. I mean, getting people sold on the idea that they need “AI” to lessen the impact of “AI” on their lives is a level of absurdity that other marketing scams can only look at with envy. Interesting times.

When I expressed concern that AI generated responses might make inaccurate claims about our products, I was told by the cloud rep to just put the answer through AI to make sure it was compliant…

Re: Show HN: Cut the crap – remove AI bullshit from websites

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One data-point, tested on a recipe website ( https://prettysimplesweet.com/french-toast ) and got what I was looking for without the fluff. How about the ability parametrize with the target URL? Something like https://cut-the-crab.streamlit.app/[TARGET_URL] ?

Isn't this shortsighted in the sense that it removes all incentive for the creators to create? A pre-click quality signal is more interesting and fair I imagine. Though I don't know how one can build a solution that is not game-able.

> Isn't this shortsighted in the sense that it removes all incentive for the creators to create?

When I was young and naive, I learned guitar so I could make tunes, not realizing I'd failed to search engine optimize narratives about my journey for ad placement to fund my spotify pay for play to get myself concert gigs to sell hats and t-shirts until I could land sponsors.

I'm sad to think in my naïveté I might have encouraged future children to create music for themselves and put it out there to see if it resonates with others, instead of enroll the kids into creator influencer classes teaching how to content mill for the idiocracy.

I'm ashamed I thought personal joy and fulfillment was a valid incentive, taking away their drive to generate and grow rich.

Re: Show HN: Cut the crap – remove AI bullshit from websites

#55

Much of the trash on the internet has nothing to do with AI, but instead is caused by using AdSense type funding. If you have a site and use revenue from ads as your funding, then the way to in increase your revenue is more show more ads. So add more fluff, move the actual thing people are looking for to the bottom, etc. Oh and add controversy, "The only authentic". Then add sex - a suggestive photo. The thing is tha…

Let’s also add the fact that most sites cannot afford AI.

Re: Show HN: Cut the crap – remove AI bullshit from websites

#56

I pointed it to PornHub, and it returned this curiously wholesome summary: - 140 million daily engaged users - 600,000 active content creators - 1 million hours of free content available - Features include playlist creation and community engagement - Tailored video suggestions - Option to subscribe to Pornhub Premium for exclusive content at $9.99/month with a free week trial available.

Were you required to provide a drivers license number for the AI to view that?

Re: Show HN: Cut the crap – remove AI bullshit from websites

#57

I guess "fighting fire with fire" is a valid response, but historically it's also lead to the much worse arms race in many situations. Instead of trying to win a game I believe is illegitimate, I prefer not to play. This chain is also kinda funny: "Cut the BS!" > Streamlit App > Streamlit bought by Snowflake to push their pretty low value (IMO) but very expensive AI play. You should figure out how to run this against…

> Instead of trying to win a game I believe is illegitimate, I prefer not to play.

We were given this advice way back in 1985 with "the only winning move is not to play. how about a nice game of chess?"

Re: Show HN: Cut the crap – remove AI bullshit from websites

#59
I can't tolerate the web without an ad blocker, and it's not just ads. Pressure from ad networks to build sites that match advertising friendly structure makes every site overly verbose. Social media sites encourage cover images, so every blog post has an image (often unrelated, creepy, uncanny valley gen-AI). So cut-the-crap is valuable tool.

A different solution is to avoid content discovery mechanisms that funnel you to AI slop and other disfunction. I'd really like a search engine that could filter out sites with ads and affiliate links, because those sites have competing interests that lead to low quality or even harmful content.

Thankfully there's a sea of independent bloggers who don't care about revenue and just want to write. They build websites that are reader friendly and aren't painful to interact with.

Re: Show HN: Cut the crap – remove AI bullshit from websites

#60
I bookmarked this comment a few months ago because I thought it was hilarious and increasingly accurate:

It's approaching a very strange situation where people make overly wordy and bloated AI generated content and other people try to use AI to compress it back into useful pellets vaguely corresponding to the actual prompts used to generate the initial content. Which were the only bits anybody cared about in the first place. One guy pays the AI to dig a hole, the other guy pays the AI to fill in the hole. Back and forth they go, raising the BNP but otherwise not accomplishing anything.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41635079

More seriously though; I wonder if/when we will reach a point at which asking for a Neuromancer-esque précis summary video of a topic will replace the experience of browsing and reading various sources of information. My gut feeling is that it will for many, but not all scenarios, because the act of browsing itself is desirable and informative. For example, searching for books on Amazon is efficient but it doesn’t quite replace the experience of walking through a bookstore.

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