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Re: Show HN: Cut the crap – remove AI bullshit from websites

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Post by sorokod »

sramam wrote: post #24
sorokod wrote: post #9

One data-point, tested on a recipe website ( https://prettysimplesweet.com/french-toast ) and got what I was looking for without the fluff. How about the ability parametrize with the target URL? Something like https://cut-the-crab.streamlit.app/[TARGET_URL] ?

Isn't this shortsighted in the sense that it removes all incentive for the creators to create? A pre-click quality signal is more interesting and fair I imagine. Though I don't know how one can build a solution that is not game-able.

With a risk of oversimplifying - that an entire unit of content (such as a page) can be usefully compressed to a short list, indicates that the original content had low value to start with.

An information theory centric angle that is interesting to think about.

Re: Show HN: Cut the crap – remove AI bullshit from websites

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Post by halfcat »

This is cool. How do you intend this to be different from general chat-based AI tools out there? Meaning, I can already do something like this with ChatGPT or similar.

Is the idea that your site works with sites that are blocking ChatGPT, or is the goal to be a more native browsing experience (via chrome extension)?

If I give ChatGPT your comment (slightly edited):

” I’ve spent a lot of time reading articles that promise a lot but never give me what I’m looking for. They’re full of clickbait titles, scary claims, and pointless filler. It’s frustrating, and it’s a waste of my time. gives you a shorter version of the content without all the nonsense. I’m tired of falling for the same tricks. I just want the facts, not a bunch of filler.

Here’s the URL: https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/1...

I get this:

” President-elect Donald Trump attended the reopening of Paris’s Notre-Dame Cathedral, marking his first international trip since the election. French President Emmanuel Macron hosted Trump at the Élysée Palace, where they were joined by Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy for discussions on the ongoing conflict in Ukraine. The reopening ceremony, attended by over 50 world leaders, celebrated the cathedral’s restoration following the 2019 fire. First Lady Jill Biden represented the current U.S. administration at the event.”

Cut-The-Crap gives me this, which is also good, but not necessarily a benefit over what I already have:

” French President Emmanuel Macron welcomed U.S. President-elect Donald Trump to the Elysée Palace in Paris ahead of the reopening of Notre-Dame Cathedral, which has been closed since a devastating fire in 2019. This marks Trump's first trip abroad since his election.

Macron is set to meet Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy after Trump, and the three leaders will meet together. Approximately 50 world leaders are expected to attend the cathedral's reopening, although President Joe Biden will be represented by First Lady Jill Biden.

Trump and Zelenskyy last met in September during the UN General Assembly. Despite speculation of a meeting during this visit, a Trump transition official stated no such meeting was planned.

Macron has positioned himself as a mediator in the ongoing Russia-Ukraine conflict, which began in February 2022. The U.S., France, and allies have imposed sanctions on Russia to support Ukraine's territorial integrity. Zelenskyy has urged the Biden administration for more support, including lifting restrictions on Ukraine's military actions against Russia.”

Re: Show HN: Cut the crap – remove AI bullshit from websites

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Post by talkingtab »

Much of the trash on the internet has nothing to do with AI, but instead is caused by using AdSense type funding. If you have a site and use revenue from ads as your funding, then the way to in increase your revenue is more show more ads.

So add more fluff, move the actual thing people are looking for to the bottom, etc. Oh and add controversy, "The only authentic". Then add sex - a suggestive photo.

The thing is that AI can now generate these sites for you so no need to do anything yourself.

Finally pay Google to feature your ad - I mean recipe - and do other stuff to ensure that real recipes do not steal your traffic. :-)

Re: Show HN: Cut the crap – remove AI bullshit from websites

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Post by j1elo »

sramam wrote: post #24
sorokod wrote: post #9

One data-point, tested on a recipe website ( https://prettysimplesweet.com/french-toast ) and got what I was looking for without the fluff. How about the ability parametrize with the target URL? Something like https://cut-the-crab.streamlit.app/[TARGET_URL] ?

Isn't this shortsighted in the sense that it removes all incentive for the creators to create? A pre-click quality signal is more interesting and fair I imagine. Though I don't know how one can build a solution that is not game-able.

It would be a good thing that it removes incentives for the creators to create. Read between the lines: for the majority of current low-content creators, who are driven by the incentives that exist today.

That would leave us with another set of new creators that would emerge, those people who would be driven just by the desire of sharing a tiny piece of their lives or knowledge, purely for the fun of it, without needing more incentive than the joy of doing it.

you know... like the internet was in the begining.

I'd like seeing that :)

Re: Show HN: Cut the crap – remove AI bullshit from websites

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Post by skeeter2020 »

I guess "fighting fire with fire" is a valid response, but historically it's also lead to the much worse arms race in many situations. Instead of trying to win a game I believe is illegitimate, I prefer not to play.

This chain is also kinda funny: "Cut the BS!" > Streamlit App > Streamlit bought by Snowflake to push their pretty low value (IMO) but very expensive AI play. You should figure out how to run this against the output of Snowflake AI; you'd probably end up with an SQL query result set :)

Re: Show HN: Cut the crap – remove AI bullshit from websites

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Post by tempodox »

philipwhiuk wrote: post #30
muc-martin wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, that's true - actually i meant distilling the key points from articles and removing AI generated SEO fillers among other things

> removing AI generated SEO fillers We had SEO filler rubbish before we had AI. Is it actually looking for AI at all or was this just included as the current buzzword.

Ferengi rule of acquisition #239: Never be afraid to mislabel a product. Besides, selling AI with the promise to remove AI is self-perpetuating.

Re: Show HN: Cut the crap – remove AI bullshit from websites

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Post by wat10000 »

sramam wrote: post #24
sorokod wrote: post #9

One data-point, tested on a recipe website ( https://prettysimplesweet.com/french-toast ) and got what I was looking for without the fluff. How about the ability parametrize with the target URL? Something like https://cut-the-crab.streamlit.app/[TARGET_URL] ?

Isn't this shortsighted in the sense that it removes all incentive for the creators to create? A pre-click quality signal is more interesting and fair I imagine. Though I don't know how one can build a solution that is not game-able.

It’s not my job to incentivize people. I’m under no obligation to view content in the exact form the creator wants. If this breaks their monetization scheme then they should figure out something else, or put up with it and rely on the readers who don’t do that.

Re: Show HN: Cut the crap – remove AI bullshit from websites

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Post by queuebert »

stego-tech wrote: post #21

Feels like it “RSS-ified” a given website, which is a good vibe . Something like this baked into RSS-Bridge or some other feed curation platform could be a great way to ingest websites that lack RSS feeds themselves, especially if the codebase can run locally.

Beyond that, maybe we should bring back Gopher. Pictures online really don't seem to be worth 1000 words these days.

Re: Show HN: Cut the crap – remove AI bullshit from websites

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Post by criddell »

talkingtab wrote: post #34

Much of the trash on the internet has nothing to do with AI, but instead is caused by using AdSense type funding. If you have a site and use revenue from ads as your funding, then the way to in increase your revenue is more show more ads. So add more fluff, move the actual thing people are looking for to the bottom, etc. Oh and add controversy, "The only authentic". Then add sex - a suggestive photo. The thing is tha…

Speaking of recipes, I just tried this on a page with a quiche recipe. The original page was pretty much a novella built around a recipe. OPs tool worked perfectly. Nicely done.
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