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Portland airport grows with expansive mass timber roof canopy

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Re: Portland airport grows with expansive mass timber roof canopy

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Much of the issue is that city planners like it that way. The building codes require it, and when they don't, they'll have design review requirements where the planners will make you change it. There's a common modern look called a 5-over-1 which usually looks like a giant box made out of four different colored Lego sets. The random different colors are forced on them by planners who think it provides "articulation".…

> The PNW actually doesn't have these rules, although the rest of the country hasn't noticed yet. For all our warts, I continue to believe the PNW is the best area of the country to live. I'm obviously biased. But I've lived a lot of places and I keep coming back here.

It's horrible, absolutely terrible! No one would ever want to live there! Please, do not move there! /s

Re: Portland airport grows with expansive mass timber roof canopy

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Is it nicer than Singapore Changi /Jewel?

Given the smaller size and fact that you can smoke weed, it's better

Death penalty if done in Singapore.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disneyland_with_the_Death_Pe...

Re: Portland airport grows with expansive mass timber roof canopy

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The wood is pretty, but as someone who uses this terminal, the key improvement is that they raised the ceiling and significantly increased the amount of natural light. Here's a good photo of what it looked like before: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Portland_Internation... The major functional drawback is that wayfinding for both arrivals and departures is much worse. The overall flow of foot traffic is way…

Does any of the famous carpet still remain? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portland_International_Airport...

The old carpet was replaced but the renovations are planning to lay out new carpeting with the original design, according to the Wiki article.

Re: Portland airport grows with expansive mass timber roof canopy

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I agree it looks nice, but dressing up an airport in sustainable materials won't materially change the fact that a flight Boston - NYC (one-way!) blasts through ~0.7t[1] of CO2eq of your yearly budget of 1-3t[2]. It won't change the fact, but I'm sure it'll make it easier to forget or ignore.

[1] https://co2.myclimate.org/en/portfolios?calculation_id=75775...

[2] e.g. https://ieep.eu/publications/carbon-inequality-in-2030-per-c...

Re: Portland airport grows with expansive mass timber roof canopy

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The wood is pretty, but as someone who uses this terminal, the key improvement is that they raised the ceiling and significantly increased the amount of natural light. Here's a good photo of what it looked like before: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Portland_Internation... The major functional drawback is that wayfinding for both arrivals and departures is much worse. The overall flow of foot traffic is way…

The indoor trees are wild!

Re: Portland airport grows with expansive mass timber roof canopy

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It is stunning, indeed. Now, I was there a few days after this new area opened, to pick up some family, so I didn't go through the security check, but from a distance that part still looked like the same unwieldy bottleneck with the messy temporary-yet-permanent barrier belts. Some airports have already re-envisioned their security check, Amsterdam/Schiphol looks nice, I hope that's still in the works for Portland, i…

correct, they're redoing a different part of the concourse now, and once it's all done the temporary stuff will go away.

that's just what's required to rehab an airport while it is still in active use.

Re: Portland airport grows with expansive mass timber roof canopy

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I suppose with such a large investment though, they'd want to plan for that possibly changing eventually, no? I'd be flying from/to Canada anyway, but if it was a viable and better option compared to others like SF, they'd get my business instead, not that there's much business to give

At 2.5M people, Portland, Oregon metro probably cannot support many international routes (except Vancouver). And it has very few businesses that would necessitate international business travel. Maybe a flight to Japan, London, mainland Europe, and Mexico.

PDX is probably the last remaining major west coast airport that isn't going to be physically constrained, if anybody wants to start a new hub.

Re: Portland airport grows with expansive mass timber roof canopy

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Certainly less miserable to look at inside than it was 20 years ago. Much better than the brutalist hell that is most of Portland.

PDX has ranked at or near the best airport in the country for decades. I imagine you watch a lot of fox news. source: https://www.oregonlive.com/news/g66l-2019/07/a6f7a0d4698366/...

The environment certainly cares about whether you watch Fox News or not while polluting the earth flying around in a plane

Re: Portland airport grows with expansive mass timber roof canopy

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You can thank former Seattle CM Sally Clark almost singlehandedly for the articulation bullshit. And a lot of the dumb townhouse rules that made them all identical for a decade. And you know design review was created by an initiative on an off election? 15% of registered voters voted in favor. I think design review could be overturned constitutionally. But few people seem to focus on that issue for long enough to lea…

Design review has been suspended for three years in downtown Seattle: https://www.theurbanist.org/2024/09/25/seattle-downtown-desi...

Yeah, but that just doesn't matter. Downtown Seattle is tiny, and it's an even smaller proportion of the space where we could be building housing across the city. Like 2%.
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