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Portland airport grows with expansive mass timber roof canopy

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Re: Portland airport grows with expansive mass timber roof canopy

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Much of the issue is that city planners like it that way. The building codes require it, and when they don't, they'll have design review requirements where the planners will make you change it. There's a common modern look called a 5-over-1 which usually looks like a giant box made out of four different colored Lego sets. The random different colors are forced on them by planners who think it provides "articulation".…

You can thank former Seattle CM Sally Clark almost singlehandedly for the articulation bullshit. And a lot of the dumb townhouse rules that made them all identical for a decade. And you know design review was created by an initiative on an off election? 15% of registered voters voted in favor. I think design review could be overturned constitutionally. But few people seem to focus on that issue for long enough to lea…

Design review has been suspended for three years in downtown Seattle: https://www.theurbanist.org/2024/09/25/seattle-downtown-desi...

Re: Portland airport grows with expansive mass timber roof canopy

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It would be nice if the article would mention how the fire resistance compares to regular wood. I found this document that indicates it should be good for an hour. What I'm not sure is even if it doesn't burn completely, how well its structural integrity holds up compared to steel. https://rosboro.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/APA-EWS-Y245B...

Re: Portland airport grows with expansive mass timber roof canopy

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I just flew through there and saw the renovation for the first time, and it is an absolutely stunning transformation. Just incredible. I loved it. The whole thing. From the ceiling to the ticketing islands to the reworked security to the amphitheater style seating areas at the terminal exit where friends & family can await your arrival. It feels spacious, natural, functional, and hospitable.

Please tell me they kept a patch of the iconic carpet around

I saw some up on that upper level near the top of the stadium seating.

Re: Portland airport grows with expansive mass timber roof canopy

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It looks like someone really liked wood slat room dividers [1]. Or maybe a lobbyist for the wood industry was involved. Wood slat partitions were seen in mid-century modern designs, when rooms became more open plan but some sense of division was needed. They were also used in the 1970s to make small cheap apartments look bigger. Still, it's good to see some US airports looking better. Most of the Asian countries have…

Vancouver BC did a huge timber pavilion in Beijing around the 2008 Olympics. It was an interesting experience, I’m not sure what their goal was. I find Chinese airports to be really generic though, yes, they have high metallic ceilings, but they somehow still manage to be drab. Maybe Chengdu can do a bamboo airport or something.

Re: Portland airport grows with expansive mass timber roof canopy

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I wish we had more pretty architecture like this in the U.S. Our architecture is so utilitarian/corporate and built at the lowest price and just enough to meet building codes. I get why it is the way it is, but I can still wish.

Much of the issue is that city planners like it that way. The building codes require it, and when they don't, they'll have design review requirements where the planners will make you change it. There's a common modern look called a 5-over-1 which usually looks like a giant box made out of four different colored Lego sets. The random different colors are forced on them by planners who think it provides "articulation".…

I think it’s 4 over 1 here in the Seattle area. Concrete floor one with retail followed by 4 wooden floors of apartments, although that is changing to 5 over 2 in the last few years. Developers love them because they are easier to build and maximize sellable space.

Re: Portland airport grows with expansive mass timber roof canopy

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I just flew through there and saw the renovation for the first time, and it is an absolutely stunning transformation. Just incredible. I loved it. The whole thing. From the ceiling to the ticketing islands to the reworked security to the amphitheater style seating areas at the terminal exit where friends & family can await your arrival. It feels spacious, natural, functional, and hospitable.

Is it nicer than Singapore Changi /Jewel?

Re: Portland airport grows with expansive mass timber roof canopy

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Much of the issue is that city planners like it that way. The building codes require it, and when they don't, they'll have design review requirements where the planners will make you change it. There's a common modern look called a 5-over-1 which usually looks like a giant box made out of four different colored Lego sets. The random different colors are forced on them by planners who think it provides "articulation".…

I think it’s 4 over 1 here in the Seattle area. Concrete floor one with retail followed by 4 wooden floors of apartments, although that is changing to 5 over 2 in the last few years. Developers love them because they are easier to build and maximize sellable space.

The numbers actually aren't floors, they're sections of the building code. 1 is nonflammable materials like concrete and 5 is most flammable but cheapest. (Pretty sure everyone thinks it means # floors though.)

4 is mass timber, which is a newer very promising material. The article mentions the airport used it, but you can build towers from it quickly, safely, and less chance of hearing your neighbors through the wall.

https://timberlab.com/projects/heartwood

Re: Portland airport grows with expansive mass timber roof canopy

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I just flew through there and saw the renovation for the first time, and it is an absolutely stunning transformation. Just incredible. I loved it. The whole thing. From the ceiling to the ticketing islands to the reworked security to the amphitheater style seating areas at the terminal exit where friends & family can await your arrival. It feels spacious, natural, functional, and hospitable.

Please tell me they kept a patch of the iconic carpet around

A small sliver of it is on my table as a coaster. Love that quirky design, blue green color.

Re: Portland airport grows with expansive mass timber roof canopy

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As far as I can tell, those guys mostly only exist in the fever dreams of online commentators.

Except when they're firebombing Portland: - https://www.portlandoregon.gov/police/news/read.cfm?id=27143... - https://www.newsweek.com/molotov-cocktail-portland-protester... Oh look, here's a video showing a guy lighting a firebomb and throwing it - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMkTfGlM-f0&t=190s Hmmm, left a bomb behind (guy was caught, extradited and sentenced to 4 years) - https://apnews.com/article/race-and-et…

> Stop gaslighting. We saw it.

FoxNews recycled video footage of the same dumpster fire every week to give an impression that Portland was burning down in 2020, so a lot of people are skeptical.

I’m totally going to trust what someone who was actually in Portland saw over what someone saw on FoxNews or some other right wing media source.

Re: Portland airport grows with expansive mass timber roof canopy

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I just flew through there and saw the renovation for the first time, and it is an absolutely stunning transformation. Just incredible. I loved it. The whole thing. From the ceiling to the ticketing islands to the reworked security to the amphitheater style seating areas at the terminal exit where friends & family can await your arrival. It feels spacious, natural, functional, and hospitable.

Is it nicer than Singapore Changi /Jewel?

Probably not, but Portland OR is also a much smaller city.
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