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Post by deepGem »

beachy wrote: post #662
informal007 wrote: post #649

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This remind me why enterprise don't integrated OpenAI product into existing toolset, trust is root reason. It's hard to provide trust to OpenAI that they won't steal data of enterprise to train next model in a market where content is the most valuable element, compared office, cloud database, etc.

> It's hard to provide trust to OpenAI that they won't steal data of enterprise to train next model Bit of a cynical take. A company like OpenAI stands to lose enormously if anyone catches them doing dodgy shit in violation of their agreements with users. And it's very hard to keep dodgy behaviour secret in any decent sized company where any embittered employee can blow the whistle. VW only just managed it with Diese…

It's not that anyone suspects OpenAI doing dodgy shit. Data flowing out of an enterprise is very high risk. No matter what security safeguards you employ. So they want everything inside their cloud perimeter and on servers they can control.

IMO no big enterprise will adopt chatGPT unless it's all hosted in their cloud. Open source models lend better to the enterprises in this regard.

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Post by bigbluedots »

solarkraft wrote: post #609
CobrastanJorji wrote: post #579

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Man, if they can solve that "trust" problem, OpenAI could really have an big advantage. Imagine if they were nonprofit, open source, documented all of the data that their training was being done with, or published all of their boardroom documents. That'd be a real distinguishing advantage. Somebody should start an organization like that.

It's sort of funny how close they were to that until Altman came along.

whoosh

Re: ChatGPT Pro

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Post by NBJack »

beachy wrote: post #662
informal007 wrote: post #649

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This remind me why enterprise don't integrated OpenAI product into existing toolset, trust is root reason. It's hard to provide trust to OpenAI that they won't steal data of enterprise to train next model in a market where content is the most valuable element, compared office, cloud database, etc.

> It's hard to provide trust to OpenAI that they won't steal data of enterprise to train next model Bit of a cynical take. A company like OpenAI stands to lose enormously if anyone catches them doing dodgy shit in violation of their agreements with users. And it's very hard to keep dodgy behaviour secret in any decent sized company where any embittered employee can blow the whistle. VW only just managed it with Diese…

Is it? OpenAI has multiple lawsuits over misuse of data, and it doesn't seem to be slowing them down much.

https://news.bloomberglaw.com/ip-law/openai-to-seek-to-centr...

Just make sure your chat history is off for starters. https://www.threatdown.com/blog/how-to-keep-your-chatgpt-con...

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Post by fragmede »

jsheard wrote: post #2

Expect more of this as they scramble to course-correct from losing billions every year, to hitting their 2029 target for profitability. That money's gotta come from somewhere. > Price hikes for the premium ChatGPT have long been rumored. By 2029, OpenAI expects it’ll charge $44 per month for ChatGPT Plus, according to reporting by The New York Times. I suspect a big part of why Sora still isn't available is because t…

Sora isn't available because of the deep fake potential.

Re: ChatGPT Pro

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Post by gandalfgreybeer »

mtlynch wrote: post #664
submeta wrote: post #394

I actually pay 166 Euros a month for Claude Teams. Five seats. And I only use one. For myself. Why do I pay so much? Because the normal paid version (20 USD a month) interrups the chats after a dozen questions and wants me to wait a few hours until I can use it again. But Teams plan gives me way more questions. But why do I pay that much? Because Claude in combination with the Projects feature, where I can upload two…

Kagi Ultimate (US$25/mo) includes unlimited use of all the Anthropic models. Full disclosure: I participated in Kagi's crowdfund, so I have some financial stake in the company, but I mainly participated because I'm an enthusiastic customer.

> Kagi Ultimate (US$25/mo) includes unlimited use of all the Anthropic models.

What am I losing here if I switch over to this from my current Claude subscription?

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Post by nstj »

carbocation wrote: post #606
Someone1234 wrote: post #496

Why doesn't Pro include longer context windows? I'm a Plus member, and the biggest limitation I am running into by far is the maximum length of a context window. I'm having context fall out of scope throughout the conversion or not being able to give it a large document that I can then interrogate. So if I go from paying $20/month for 32,000 tokens, to $200/month for Pro, I expect something more akin to Enterprise's…

Pro does have longer context windows , specifically 128k. Take a look at the pricing page for this information: https://openai.com/chatgpt/pricing/

Thanks for this. I’m surprised they haven’t made this more obvious in their release and other documentation

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Post by lexandstuff »

fragmede wrote: post #714
jsheard wrote: post #2

Expect more of this as they scramble to course-correct from losing billions every year, to hitting their 2029 target for profitability. That money's gotta come from somewhere. > Price hikes for the premium ChatGPT have long been rumored. By 2029, OpenAI expects it’ll charge $44 per month for ChatGPT Plus, according to reporting by The New York Times. I suspect a big part of why Sora still isn't available is because t…

Sora isn't available because of the deep fake potential.

My guess is that it isn't available because the training data they stole occasionally leaks into the outputs.

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Post by mycall »

jey wrote: post #655
informal007 wrote: post #649

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This remind me why enterprise don't integrated OpenAI product into existing toolset, trust is root reason. It's hard to provide trust to OpenAI that they won't steal data of enterprise to train next model in a market where content is the most valuable element, compared office, cloud database, etc.

This is what the Azure OpenAI offering is supposed to solve, right?

Correct

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Post by ec109685 »

fudged71 wrote: post #443

OpenAI is racing against two clocks: the commoditization clock (how quickly open-source alternatives catch up) and the monetization clock (their need to generate substantial revenue to justify their valuation). The ultimate success of this strategy depends on what we might call the enterprise AI adoption curve - whether large organizations will prioritize the kind of integrated, reliable, and "safe" AI solutions Open…

Microsoft is their path into the enterprise. You can use their so-so enterprise support directly or have all the enterprise features you could want via Azure.

They also are still leading in the enterprise space: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/maggax_market-share-of-openai...

Re: ChatGPT Pro

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Post by rumblefrog »

mtlynch wrote: post #664
submeta wrote: post #394

I actually pay 166 Euros a month for Claude Teams. Five seats. And I only use one. For myself. Why do I pay so much? Because the normal paid version (20 USD a month) interrups the chats after a dozen questions and wants me to wait a few hours until I can use it again. But Teams plan gives me way more questions. But why do I pay that much? Because Claude in combination with the Projects feature, where I can upload two…

Kagi Ultimate (US$25/mo) includes unlimited use of all the Anthropic models. Full disclosure: I participated in Kagi's crowdfund, so I have some financial stake in the company, but I mainly participated because I'm an enthusiastic customer.

I presume no access to Anthropic project?
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