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Re: ChatGPT Pro

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Post by Filligree »

Mordisquitos wrote: post #453
A_D_E_P_T wrote: post #407

I just bought a pro subscription. First impressions: The new o1-Pro model is an insanely good writer. Aside from favoring the long em-dash (—) which isn't on most keyboards, it has none of the quirks and tells of old GPT-4/4o/o1. It managed to totally fool every "AI writing detector" I ran it through. It can handle unusually long prompts. It appears to be very good at complex data analysis. I need to put it through i…

> Aside from favoring the long em-dash (—) which isn't on most keyboards Interesting! I intentionally edit my keyboard layout to include the em-dash, as I enjoy using it out of sheer pomposity—I should undoubtedly delve into the extent to which my own comments have been used to train GPT models!

I just use it because it's grammatically correct—admittedly I should use it less, for example here.

Re: ChatGPT Pro

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Post by deegles »

The big question is if OpenAI will achieve "general" AI before their investors get fed up. I wonder if they used the success of ChatGPT to imply that they have a path to it. I don't see how else they achieved such a high valuation.

Re: ChatGPT Pro

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Post by rmbyrro »

Someone1234 wrote: post #496

Why doesn't Pro include longer context windows? I'm a Plus member, and the biggest limitation I am running into by far is the maximum length of a context window. I'm having context fall out of scope throughout the conversion or not being able to give it a large document that I can then interrogate. So if I go from paying $20/month for 32,000 tokens, to $200/month for Pro, I expect something more akin to Enterprise's…

Google models have huge contexts, but are terrible...

Re: ChatGPT Pro

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Post by arcastroe »

e1g wrote: post #619
submeta wrote: post #394

I actually pay 166 Euros a month for Claude Teams. Five seats. And I only use one. For myself. Why do I pay so much? Because the normal paid version (20 USD a month) interrups the chats after a dozen questions and wants me to wait a few hours until I can use it again. But Teams plan gives me way more questions. But why do I pay that much? Because Claude in combination with the Projects feature, where I can upload two…

Unironically, thank you for sharing this strategy. I get throttled a lot, and I'm happy to pay to remove those frustrating limits.

Sounds like you two could split the cost of the family plan-- ahem the team plan.

Re: ChatGPT Pro

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Post by mark_l_watson »

8n4vidtmkvmk wrote: post #640
mark_l_watson wrote: post #603

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Switch to Gemini Pro just when you need huge context size. That is what I do.

Just? You don't think the model is as capable when the context does fit?

I tend to use OpenAI, Gemini, and Claude. All are excellent, but when I am not happy with results I hit all!three.

Re: ChatGPT Pro

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Post by rmbyrro »

griomnib wrote: post #84

I consistently get significantly better performance from Anthropic at a literal order of magnitude less cost. I am incredibly doubtful that this new GPT is 10x Claude unless it is embracing some breakthrough, secret, architecture nobody has heard of.

Sonnet isn't good at debugging, or even architecting. o1 shines, it feels like magic. The kinds of bugs it helped me nail were incredible to me.

Re: ChatGPT Pro

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Post by dankwizard »

I bought it. My first prompt? "To prove you're smarter, tell me how I can get this Pro plan for $10 instead of $200".

It answered.

I've been in contact with OpenAI and if they decline, I guess their AI isn't that smart. If they accept, a win for me.

Stonks.

Re: ChatGPT Pro

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Post by rahimnathwani »

solarkraft wrote: post #616
dudus wrote: post #512

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The longer the context the more backtracking it needs to do. It gets exponentially more expensive. You can increase it a little, but not enough to solve the problem. Instead you need to chunk your data and store it in a vector database so you can do semantic search and include only the bits that are most relevant in the context. LLM is a cool tool. You need to build around it. OpenAI should start shipping these other…

> you need to chunk your data and store it in a vector database so you can do semantic search and include only the bits that are most relevant in the context Be aware that this tends to give bad results. Once RAG is involved you essentially only do slightly better than a traditional search, a lot of nuance gets lost.

This depends on the amount of context you provide, and the quality of your retrieval step.

Re: ChatGPT Pro

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Post by informal007 »

danpalmer wrote: post #515
fudged71 wrote: post #443

OpenAI is racing against two clocks: the commoditization clock (how quickly open-source alternatives catch up) and the monetization clock (their need to generate substantial revenue to justify their valuation). The ultimate success of this strategy depends on what we might call the enterprise AI adoption curve - whether large organizations will prioritize the kind of integrated, reliable, and "safe" AI solutions Open…

The problem is that OpenAI don't really have the enterprise market at all. Their APIs are closer in that many companies are using them to power features in other software, primarily Microsoft, but they're not the ones providing end user value to enterprises with APIs. As for ChatGPT, it's a consumer tool, not an enterprise tool. It's not really integrated into an enterprises' existing toolset, it's not integrated int…

This remind me why enterprise don't integrated OpenAI product into existing toolset, trust is root reason.

It's hard to provide trust to OpenAI that they won't steal data of enterprise to train next model in a market where content is the most valuable element, compared office, cloud database, etc.

Re: ChatGPT Pro

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Post by rahimnathwani »

az226 wrote: post #586
A_D_E_P_T wrote: post #407

I just bought a pro subscription. First impressions: The new o1-Pro model is an insanely good writer. Aside from favoring the long em-dash (—) which isn't on most keyboards, it has none of the quirks and tells of old GPT-4/4o/o1. It managed to totally fool every "AI writing detector" I ran it through. It can handle unusually long prompts. It appears to be very good at complex data analysis. I need to put it through i…

What’s the context window?

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