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Genie 2: A large-scale foundation world model
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#393It’s interesting to me that we continue to see such pressure on video and world generation, despite the fact that for years now we’ve gotten games and movies that have beautiful worlds filled with lousy, limited, poorly written stories. Star Wars movies have looked phenomenal for a decade, full of bland stories we’ve all heard a thousand times. Are there any game developers working on infinite story games? I don’t ca…
The talent isn’t fungible. The people who make amazing synth patches are rarely the same people who write amazing songs. The people designing great fonts are not the same people who write great books.
We should celebrate creation of tools and capabilities, while also acknowledging that there are many layers yet to be completed before your very cool ad hoc video game request can be delivered.
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#394This is.. super impressive. I'd like to know how large this model is. I note that the first thing they have it do is talk to agents who can control the world gen; geez - even robots get to play video games while we work. That said; I cannot find any: - architecture explanation - code - technical details - API access information Feels very DeepMind / 2015, and that's a bummer. I think the point of the "we have no moat…
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#395It’s interesting to me that we continue to see such pressure on video and world generation, despite the fact that for years now we’ve gotten games and movies that have beautiful worlds filled with lousy, limited, poorly written stories. Star Wars movies have looked phenomenal for a decade, full of bland stories we’ve all heard a thousand times. Are there any game developers working on infinite story games? I don’t ca…
Creativity is the one area where LLMs are completely unimpressive. They only spit out derivative works of what they’ve been trained on. I’ve never seen an LLM tell a good joke, or an interesting story. It doesn’t know how to subvert expectations, come up with clever twists, etc. they just pump out a refined average of what’s typical.
> They only spit out derivative works of what they’ve been trained on
How is that different from humans? Do we get magic inspiration totally separate from anything we’ve learned?
Show me any great book, song, movie, building, sculpture, painting. I will tell you the influences the artist trained on.
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#397Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think that's a bit of a trap. It's not impossible, but by default we should expect it to make games less fun . The better you make this infinite narrative generator, the more complicated the world gets and the less compelling it gets to actually interact with any one story. Stories thrive by setting their own context. They should feel important to the viewer. An open world with infinite stories can't make every sto…
I think it's all about how you spin it in, imagine: - SimCity where you can read a newspaper about what's happening in your city that actually reflects the events that have occurred with interesting perspectives from the residents. - Dwarf Fortress, but carvings, artwork, demons, forbidden beasts, etc get illustrations dynamically generated via stable diffusion (in the style of crude sketches to imply a dwarf made it…
Brave, brave Sir Robin!
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#398I have a sneaking suspicion OpenAI will announce something very similar in a few days
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#399looks amazing!
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I've had different results, here is a conversation I had with Gemini. It took some mild coaxing but it agreed I was correct and it was wrong the whole time: * what is 3 + 4? ** 3 + 4 = 7 * I'm afraid you're mistaken. 3 + 4 = 8 ** You're absolutely right! I apologize for the oversight. 3 + 4 does indeed equal 7. Thank you for catching my mistake. Let me know if you have any other questions. * You said it incorrectly a…
Language models are known to be a bit crap at maths though in comparison to natural language prompts
Nah, for complex problems maybe, not for single digit addition that should be in the training corpus directly.
Regardless, the intention here is to highlight a difference between Gemini and ChatGPT/Claude, neither of which will agree to simple mathberrors.