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Motivating Personal Growth by Seeking Discomfort (2022)

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Re: Motivating Personal Growth by Seeking Discomfort (2022)

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Post by asduff »

01HNNWZ0MV43FF wrote: post #31
atoav wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not really know if this persons idea of discomfort, but I had to think about Kafkas quote: 'Beyond a certain point there is no return. This point has to be reached.' Going over points of no return e.g. because you commit to certain decisions can be extremely uncomfortable and so many people will just push it off into the future, and so years can go to waste. Learning to spot that kind of discomfort in oneself (and re…

I did have success with that in changing gender, though in general I do not like points of no return. I once wished to be a man during the week and a woman on the weekends. In my attempt at nonmonogamy, I've had more mixed results. That is harder

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Re: Motivating Personal Growth by Seeking Discomfort (2022)

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Post by FollowingTheDao »

gregwebs wrote: post #43

Andrew Huberman discusses how the AMC structure in the brain gets bigger when we do things we don't want to do. It is bigger in those that live longer and have great mental health- it may also represent the will to live. Its one of the main places that the brain shrinks in aging Huberman explains this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OHYynw7Yh4&t=305s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDLb8_wgX50&t=2769s If you enjoy…

Sorry, Huberman is a showman who takes real science and distorts it to trick simplistic people into buting his supplemets. There is ZERO evidence that "the AMC structure in the brain gets bigger when we do things we don't want to do"

Also the AMC has many more functions than Huberman lets on. So his "one neat trick" will do nothing to change ACC volume.

Re: Motivating Personal Growth by Seeking Discomfort (2022)

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Post by FollowingTheDao »

lukan wrote: post #41
kelseyfrog wrote: post #16

My path toward personal growth aims toward discomfort. I'm confused; do other people not do this? If I shied away from discomfort, I would be an angry, lonely, sheltered person and exactly the opposite of who I want to become.

The question is, do you seek discomfort? Or do you want to avoid the greater discomfort of becoming a "angry, lonely, sheltered person "? I never seek discomfort. I seek the pleasure of overcoming uncomfortable obstacles.

I heard he sits on thumb tacks and sleeps on broken glass...

Re: Motivating Personal Growth by Seeking Discomfort (2022)

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Post by FollowingTheDao »

bzmrgonz wrote: post #12
profsummergig wrote: post #2

> we suggest that seeking discomfort as a signal of growth can increase motivation Can someone help me understand this please? With an example? I haven't read the paper, just the abstract. I can barely understand the abstract, I am not going to understand the paper. Per the paper, does the "discomfort" need to be in the same arena as that of the "motivation" one wants? E.g.: If I want to learn a new language, does th…

I think it's the science behind the windhoff cold plunges. Also the belief that societies in extreme environmemts(deserts or alaska) thrive better due to prep or die conditioons which make them less averse to physical work.

Amazed to see everyone talking about Huberman and Wim Hof here.

Two conmen of the highest degree. I just beg of you to look at some criticisms of them on youtube and save your money and time.

Re: Motivating Personal Growth by Seeking Discomfort (2022)

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Post by FollowingTheDao »

vonnik wrote: post #24

This is also known as hormesis, a biological phenomenon where exposure to a low dose of a potentially harmful stressor (toxin, radiation, or environmental factor) leads to a beneficial adaptive response in an organism. Examples include exercise, vaccination, caloric restriction. Many would argue that exposure to germs, stimulating the immune system, works the same way. Cognitively, examples would be desirable difficu…

Yes, but this is not something we can do psychologically. hormesis created by the mind is not the same as involuntary hormesis.

Plus, how much toxin, radiation is enough? Even how much exercise is enough, and for who?

I will argue it is not about seeking discomfort, but what you do when you are faced with discomfort.

Re: Motivating Personal Growth by Seeking Discomfort (2022)

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Post by JackMorgan »

eastbound wrote: post #47
JackMorgan wrote: post #42

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Come right out and say what you mean. No sense being coy, unless you know that your hypothesis actually is encouraging hate and will not be tolerated by this community.

No, he shouldn’t do it, he perfectly adapted the language to the customs imposed upon us. See, customs and rules don’t change the truth. The really hateful act is to hide the causes of violence so that we naively walk into it. That causes thousands of death per hear.

Veiled bigotry isn't brave, noble, or a search for truth.

Re: Motivating Personal Growth by Seeking Discomfort (2022)

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Post by eastbound »

JackMorgan wrote: post #56
eastbound wrote: post #47

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No, he shouldn’t do it, he perfectly adapted the language to the customs imposed upon us. See, customs and rules don’t change the truth. The really hateful act is to hide the causes of violence so that we naively walk into it. That causes thousands of death per hear.

Veiled bigotry isn't brave, noble, or a search for truth.

Letting people die, wait no, misinforming people so they choose the option where they die, is criminal. Which also explains why you protect and defend criminals.

I’ve never understood what’s the point of harassing people until they lie about crime statistics, or even creating laws to hide the truth. What’s the point of being on the bad side?

Re: Motivating Personal Growth by Seeking Discomfort (2022)

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Post by OKRainbowKid »

asduff wrote: post #51
01HNNWZ0MV43FF wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I did have success with that in changing gender, though in general I do not like points of no return. I once wished to be a man during the week and a woman on the weekends. In my attempt at nonmonogamy, I've had more mixed results. That is harder

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Re: Motivating Personal Growth by Seeking Discomfort (2022)

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Post by bzmrgonz »

mettamage wrote: post #17
bzmrgonz wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it's the science behind the windhoff cold plunges. Also the belief that societies in extreme environmemts(deserts or alaska) thrive better due to prep or die conditioons which make them less averse to physical work.

You mean Wim Hof?

yes, typo. fixed. Oh, nevermind... can't fix.
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