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I've always wondered how ratios like that are supposed to work. Surely the ratio has to be 1.0, averaged over all users.
most trackers have some kind of bonus point system
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A credit card? That... makes some sense, then. I'd be wary if anyone trying to pay with one of those as well; they're much too rare, and I've heard it's easy to unilaterally reverse charges. Hetzner is a German company. Credit cards may be common in the USA, but they're not anywhere else.
Never had an issue with credit cards on AWS, Azure, GCP, Digital Ocean, Vultr and Scaleway.
They look like "card tasting" payments which fraudsters do to check if a card is valid.
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Why is this attitude so commonplace? Servers are worthless to a hosting company without utilization. It’s in their best interest to have them pegged 100%. Like airplanes - they don’t make money when they are empty. Why do so many in this thread think “I am using 100% of what I pay for! They are bound to change it soon!” That’s not how it works. If I offer you service for a fee, I’m going to allow you to use 100% of t…
You seem oddly emotional about this. Also, you're wrong. Hosting companies count on a certain Don't get so emotional, but if you do, at least make sure you aren't wrong first.
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I think you are probably misreading the situation. My guess is that their costs went up and they are now increasing their prices so they don't lose money.
Dunno... my reaction was for this sentence specifically: > Until this change, customers who have used fewer resources have covered the costs [...] for other customers who have used much more resources. This does sound to me like "here, all 20TB is yours, but make sure you don't use more than 2TB, or else" - regardless from which angle I look at it.
So it seems that trying to compete with duopoly isn't working. Can we assume it is cause there is only few big corporations dominating internet infrastructure in US compared to EU with tons of medium sized and even small business that do it? I would love some good read about US infrastructure, especially why costs are so high compared to EU?
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I signed up and immediately got banned because I was accessing through a VPN, which I think is a common problem others have had. I emailed them and their advice was to stop using a VPN and try again.
Why were you using a VPN?
This isn't particularly common, but it's not uncommon either.
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I signed up and immediately got banned because I was accessing through a VPN, which I think is a common problem others have had. I emailed them and their advice was to stop using a VPN and try again.
That seems fair to me though. If that ISP (whatever the WHOIS resolves to for your VPN) gets a high rate of fraudulent customers, how is Hetzner to know if you're the same fraudster again or a new customer? Especially if you share not just the ISP but even your IP address with someone... we also rate limit logins for example based on IP address. If you're coming from the same origin as an attacker, there's no way for…
I don't want any business critical infra managed by a company willing to be that aggressive in blocking accounts, while also having slow customer service to resolve access issues.
It's now more expensive for bandwidth than Digital Ocean, completely destroying what was its value proposition previously.
I'm not sure what math you're basing this on, but it's far from correct. They include slightly less transfer in the instances, but their overage pricing is about 10% of DO and their instances are so much cheaper that you'll be paying much less even after adding a few TB. For example compare the CPX11 to the cheapest similar offering from DO: CPX11: 2vCPU, 2GB, 40GB storage (NVMe), 1TB transfer, ~$5 per month DO Basic…
Looking at their pricing just now, it looks like it's $6/month for that droplet, which changes things a bit. Now, as long as you're willing to get droplets purely for the bandwidth allotment, DO's bandwidth costs $6/TB. That's more than almost every Hetzner option listed by the OP, but not all of them.
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> it reasonable for a $5/month virtual machine customer to use 1Gbps 24/7/365, potentially consuming $100–$200 worth of bandwidth It's reasonable for OVH to prevent that, and it's also reasonable for OVH to explicitly and clearly define the limits up front.
It’s also reasonable for OVH to not do that, as most of their customers don’t understand 95th percentile billing, which is the model that they’re being charged at by their transit suppliers. It’s also reasonable for OVH to not do that, as most of their customers dont understand that transit costs blend with port costs depending on destination, and some destinations are effectively ‘free’ to send/receive from (fixed p…
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OVH and reliable, in the same sentence? They're cheap, so suitable for projects you don't mind going poof. Personal anecdote. A few years ago, I lost a lot of sleep on a domain renewal at OVH. Their incompetence was mind-boggling. A less common tld was the only slightly challenging bit. After a week of calling and emailing, and on the verge of the domain lapsing, I gave up and sent someone to the tld registry with ca…
They can be terrible. But it is dirt cheap. So if you use their stuff in a way that you can recover somewhere else if they have issues, you save a lot. As you mentioned I would stay away from them for things like domain hosting. Just use them for cheap compute, etc.
Neither has ever caused me a problem that didn't feel like "potentially having this level of problem occasionally is entirely in keeping with how little I'm paying" basically.