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Re: GenChess

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post #201

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Companies like google are quite well equiped to launch anything globally. And in this specific case, its a Chess demo, its probably something different

It is very annoying at most big techs to go through launch approval for something all new and adding yet another approved or checklist for the EU is not worth the tradeoff of time for something experimental/early.

Big companys should just have a basic department handling this without much overhead.

Re: GenChess

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post #201

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is very annoying at most big techs to go through launch approval for something all new and adding yet another approved or checklist for the EU is not worth the tradeoff of time for something experimental/early.

Big companys should just have a basic department handling this without much overhead.

That department becomes the overhead every time since it imposes requirements or work on the team doing the actual creation. They make the teams building the product make changes or answer questions and “gate” releases. Every time you add someone extra things slow down if their whole job is related to reducing risk. Misaligned incentives.

Re: GenChess

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> ...they will gladly make it look like it's more complicated and insurmountable than it really is There are non-malicious explanations for the same pattern of behavior at large organizations - the motivation (malice or not-malice) that seems correct is a Rorschach test. If I accidentally log IP addresses for EU users that opted out on some throw-away experimental page on my site, Brussels would never find out. If Go…

> If I accidentally log IP addresses for EU users that opted out If opting out is a possibility, then it's not essential data. If it's not essential data, what legitimate reason would you have to collect it in the first place?

Data safety is a not a binary thing (essential = okay to keep, non-essential = not okay). Instead , it is a context-sensitive, layered, multi-axis concern. IP addresses, for instance, are PII that are essential for network routing, but that doesn't mean address+based ad retargeting is fair game.

Accidentally logging data that's essential but was supposed to be ephemeral would turn it "not-ephemeral" and make it possible to cross-reference with other information in privacy-defeating ways. As I said, it was a privacy-focused product, and using data that is meant for one thing (e.g. abuse detection and prevention) for some other out-of-spec use - even accidentally - is a big no-no.

Re: GenChess

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post #243

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Big companys should just have a basic department handling this without much overhead.

That department becomes the overhead every time since it imposes requirements or work on the team doing the actual creation. They make the teams building the product make changes or answer questions and “gate” releases. Every time you add someone extra things slow down if their whole job is related to reducing risk. Misaligned incentives.

We talk about google not some small company which never faced this issue.

Allowing of a global login, SDK and default workflows would make it very easy to comply to everything.

Re: GenChess

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post #243

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That department becomes the overhead every time since it imposes requirements or work on the team doing the actual creation. They make the teams building the product make changes or answer questions and “gate” releases. Every time you add someone extra things slow down if their whole job is related to reducing risk. Misaligned incentives.

We talk about google not some small company which never faced this issue. Allowing of a global login, SDK and default workflows would make it very easy to comply to everything.

I have worked at multiple of the FAANGs. I know quite well how much overhead these kind of releases take and how much overhead any centralized release team made to “help” end up adding. It’s not just a few small things that you mention.
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