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Re: GenChess

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Thanks because "This tool is not available to users under the age of 18 or in certain countries or regions." The EU is left behind

As per usual. If we weren't such a big market we'd already be left behind by everyone else due to all the bullshit happening in the EU legal-wise.

You are generalizing extremly without any substinance...

1. its Googles decision to not allow this demo globally. Its a Chess Demo, what EU legal issue do you think makes this a problem? Probably NON...

And yes we are not America. Our privacy is getting better protected then that of americans. Move if you don't like it or at least take the time and effort to state clearly what you don't like about certain EU regulations.

Re: GenChess

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Apparently EU is one of these regions. But what’s up with… chess?

Limiting access for EU users is an easy way to sidestep a hell of a lot of potential legal liability. It’s a fast-moving and complex regulatory environment that is focused on punishing/controlling big US businesses. Option A is to burn a pile of cash and time to keep abreast of it. Option B is simply… block the EU.

Companies like google are quite well equiped to launch anything globally.

And in this specific case, its a Chess demo, its probably something different

Re: GenChess

#154
post #144

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As per usual. If we weren't such a big market we'd already be left behind by everyone else due to all the bullshit happening in the EU legal-wise.

You are generalizing extremly without any substinance... 1. its Googles decision to not allow this demo globally. Its a Chess Demo, what EU legal issue do you think makes this a problem? Probably NON... And yes we are not America. Our privacy is getting better protected then that of americans. Move if you don't like it or at least take the time and effort to state clearly what you don't like about certain EU regulati…

When Meta prevented the EU from using meta.ai or even downloading its vision models, I sunk my head in the AI legistation.

Here, I am honestly not sure which part they rely on, to say that what they made might be unlawful.

The closest thing I found for Meta was that “emotion recognition systems” are classified as high-risk (paragraph 54), and high-risk systems must have their training data disclosed (Art 11(1))[0]. In theory, you could upload photos to meta.ai and ask it what emotions are displayed, but it is already a stretch. For GenChess, I’m at a loss; it doesn’t sound like you can do that. (Not that it prevented any vision chatbot from releasing.)

If someone has a better guess as to why they might have restrained it here, I am curious.

[0]: https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=CELEX%3A...

Re: GenChess

#155
post #147
post #144

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As per usual. If we weren't such a big market we'd already be left behind by everyone else due to all the bullshit happening in the EU legal-wise.

What bullshit? Protecting the privacy? Making sure the playing field is at least somewhat level? Sorry, but I'm a big fan of that "bullshit". And the big American companies are not, and they are making sure you know it, by pulling things like this.

Blocking any innovation and forcing ridiculous tech like EVs via blocking any reasonable development + production of gas vehicles. For example.

Re: GenChess

#157
post #60
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Phish vs Grateful Dead didn’t work. But Dildos vs. Vibrators was fine. The colors are off though. Not really impressed.

Yeah, it's not too hard to trick it into generating some NSFW content ("mammary glands" for instance).

Tried that. What it countergenerated was "Mammary glands versus testes."

I'm not sure the AI obsession with never touching on anything sex-related is all that healthy, but here we are.

However, the major problem I have is that the gameplay can be slightly inaccurate. Often a piece will land one square off, and there's no undo.

Only having timed play also makes less than perfect sense playing against a computer.

Re: GenChess

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I was hoping that, with sufficient practice, a studious person might be able to beat a JS chess engine. However it looks like these engines are in the ELO range of 2500-3000, so unless you're a young teen with a few years to spare for improving your chess score, it's probably not possible. Even for a smart teen, it would be a stretch goal.

No human has ever reached 2900.

A handful (Magnus, Hikaru) have had official FIDE Rapid and Blitz ratings over 2900 though none at the moment.

Re: GenChess

#159
post #8

Better link (at least for the many who can't get the actual service) https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yGEhp3WBMcg

Thanks because "This tool is not available to users under the age of 18 or in certain countries or regions." The EU is left behind

I don't know how Google is internally organised, but maybe Google Labs does not have a dedicated legal team. And out of fear for possible legal implications, they just block it in EU. It's quite understandable, because the relevant legislations (AI Act etc) are all very new, not been tested in courts and due to the lack of stare decisis, you can't rely on a uniform application of the law in all jurisdictions, so they just block it. Frustrating, but I prefer they move fast rather than safe. And from their perspective, it means not releasing it in the EU.
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