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GIMP 3.0 is on the way

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Re: GIMP 3.0 is on the way

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Post by joaomacp »

I use Gimp from time to time, and often get frustrated with its... unique UI. It's nice to see they're hearing feedback and working on it :D

A tip for others that feel the same: if you've used Photoshop before and are used to its UI, try the free Photopea website. It's a Photoshop "clone" that works really well in web (I believe it's a solo dev doing it too). It's replaced Gimp for me lately.

Re: GIMP 3.0 is on the way

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Post by mid-kid »

onli wrote: post #10
albertzeyer wrote: post #2

I find it a bit weird that Gimp does not use the latest GTK (i.e. GTK4, which was considered stable since 2020), even though GTK originates in the Gimp project itself. It actually seems to be quite a bit behind: This is now the first release of Gimp which started to use GTK3, i.e. before, it even still used GTK2 (reached end-of-life in 2020)?

Having had to migrate a very simple project from GTK2 to GTK3, I don't think it's all that weird. The migration was utterly difficult, in the areas that hit me seemingly no effort was made to give proper migration paths. Only with some later published documentation (+ help from chatgpt) was it possible to restore some functionality later, after the initial migration. Finally that even meant calling the xlib directly.…

From what I've heard surrounding this, GTK3 to GTK4 isn't as big of a jump as GTK2 to GTK3 was. The GTK3 port was finished first because there was already work in place for that, but we can expect a GTK4 port to be faster. That said, I haven't seen many apps that aren't specifically GNOME apps start using GTK4 in the first place, and as such I'm currently not using any GTK4 applications. I expect it to take a while before more things move to GTK4.

Re: GIMP 3.0 is on the way

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Post by rkharsan64 »

lastdong wrote: post #9

Finally updated UI! I really hope it inspires more updates and brings in even more people, just like when Blender revamped their UX a few years back and saw an amazing boost in popularity.

Does this change include any UX improvements? The article only mentions updated visuals and theming. From the discussions I've read, it's the UX of GIMP that holds it back.

Re: GIMP 3.0 is on the way

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Post by sirwhinesalot »

albertzeyer wrote: post #2

I find it a bit weird that Gimp does not use the latest GTK (i.e. GTK4, which was considered stable since 2020), even though GTK originates in the Gimp project itself. It actually seems to be quite a bit behind: This is now the first release of Gimp which started to use GTK3, i.e. before, it even still used GTK2 (reached end-of-life in 2020)?

GTK4 removed a bunch of APIs for stupid reasons and GIMPs move to 3 started before 4 even existed. Had 4 at least tried to maintain some degree of compatibility then switching from 3 to 4 near the end would have been feasible. But that's not the case.

If you aren't Gnome, GTK is not for you.

Re: GIMP 3.0 is on the way

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Post by ginko »

lastdong wrote: post #9

Finally updated UI! I really hope it inspires more updates and brings in even more people, just like when Blender revamped their UX a few years back and saw an amazing boost in popularity.

I hope you can still configure it to have all the different toolboxes in separate windows like before.

Also who thought putting stuff like "Cancel" and "OK" into the title bar was a good idea?!

Re: GIMP 3.0 is on the way

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Post by kuschkufan »

sirwhinesalot wrote: post #25
albertzeyer wrote: post #2

I find it a bit weird that Gimp does not use the latest GTK (i.e. GTK4, which was considered stable since 2020), even though GTK originates in the Gimp project itself. It actually seems to be quite a bit behind: This is now the first release of Gimp which started to use GTK3, i.e. before, it even still used GTK2 (reached end-of-life in 2020)?

GTK4 removed a bunch of APIs for stupid reasons and GIMPs move to 3 started before 4 even existed. Had 4 at least tried to maintain some degree of compatibility then switching from 3 to 4 near the end would have been feasible. But that's not the case. If you aren't Gnome, GTK is not for you.

Guess what the "G" in GTK stands for historically

Re: GIMP 3.0 is on the way

#29

Post by martin_a »

kookamamie wrote: post #20
martin_a wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> How relevant is print these days? Still quite relevant, especially in some areas. Think about packaging and labeling, there's just not really a way around print in these areas. Besides that, digital print is the future. Print also needs to become clever and data-driven, more personalized and tailored to the recipient, but that's hard work. Example: Just last week I received a catalogue with the fall/winter collecti…

I don't think anyone working in print would use Gimp, though?

Naaah... For better or worse we're all set up with our Adobe Creative Clouds...
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