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Hetzner cuts traffic on US VPSs, raises prices

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Re: Hetzner cuts traffic on US VPSs, raises prices

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Post by flyinghamster »

acaloiar wrote: post #490
JSDevOps wrote: post #363

Used Linode for years. Brilliant service. Not sure how the Akamai takeover will pan out. Anyone else looking to migrate. https://www.serverhunter.com/

Ironically one of the reasons I abandoned Linode for Hetzner was because I assumed Akamai would ruin it. I still have stuff on Linode and I don't think Akamai ruined it. With that said, Hetzner's prices are still cheaper and I've never had issues with their service, but I feel gaslit by this announcement.

As an age-old Linode customer from the UML days, I'd say that Akamai has done a good job with it. I've had nothing to complain about.

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Post by kiney »

Filligree wrote: post #420
ironhaven wrote: post #298

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BitTorrent seedbox. If you are apart of a private torrent tracker you may download 5tb and upload 10tb of data per month to be in good standing within that tracker’s community

I've always wondered how ratios like that are supposed to work. Surely the ratio has to be 1.0, averaged over all users.

most trackers have some kind of bonus point system

Re: Hetzner cuts traffic on US VPSs, raises prices

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Post by fl0id »

markvdb wrote: post #433
fastily wrote: post #392

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I use OVH (VPS’s specifically), which offers unlimited bandwidth. In my experience they’ve been both reliable and affordable which is a rarity. I run a few applications that require high amounts of bandwidth, so silly caps like the ones that Hetzner are imposing are a non-starter for me

OVH and reliable, in the same sentence? They're cheap, so suitable for projects you don't mind going poof. Personal anecdote. A few years ago, I lost a lot of sleep on a domain renewal at OVH. Their incompetence was mind-boggling. A less common tld was the only slightly challenging bit. After a week of calling and emailing, and on the verge of the domain lapsing, I gave up and sent someone to the tld registry with ca…

Yeah,just hope you never have to interact with support

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Post by dastbe »

fastball wrote: post #505
whalesalad wrote: post #486

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Why is this attitude so commonplace? Servers are worthless to a hosting company without utilization. It’s in their best interest to have them pegged 100%. Like airplanes - they don’t make money when they are empty. Why do so many in this thread think “I am using 100% of what I pay for! They are bound to change it soon!” That’s not how it works. If I offer you service for a fee, I’m going to allow you to use 100% of t…

Completely backwards. A server that is being paid for but not utilized is the best-case scenario for a hosting provider – revenue the same, lower costs (electrical/cooling/etc).

in mba brain, but hosting providers want as much utilization because it means people are going to use more over time.

Re: Hetzner cuts traffic on US VPSs, raises prices

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Post by linsomniac »

lordofgibbons wrote: post #295

I created an account with Hetzner earlier this year, and confirmed my Credit Card with them, but a few second later, they auto-suspended my account before I could log in. I emailed support, and they bluntly told me to create a new account and this time use real information... Needless to say, I bought compute elsewhere. I don't know how they're still in business.

This was between 2000-2010, but when I ran a linux consulting+hosting business our "provision a VPS with a credit card" was where we experienced the largest amount of fraud, by probably 100x. Certainly well over 10x. Might be why Hetzner was touchy?

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Post by mattl »

lordofgibbons wrote: post #295

I created an account with Hetzner earlier this year, and confirmed my Credit Card with them, but a few second later, they auto-suspended my account before I could log in. I emailed support, and they bluntly told me to create a new account and this time use real information... Needless to say, I bought compute elsewhere. I don't know how they're still in business.

Were you on a VPN or Tor at the time?

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Post by terribleperson »

Aeolun wrote: post #337
dangus wrote: post #284

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I don’t find that to be all that impressive. I’m immediately saving money with the server I built out of mostly used parts and threw in my closet compared to VPS solutions. The only reason it’s near 100% utilization is because $5 VPS instances have barely any computing power assigned to them. For the same price as one game server I’m running something like 5-8 VMs at once. I can utilize 128GB of RAM and 6/12 real CPU…

Completely unrelated, but I’m surprised how many people actually use the Ryzen 3600, from desktops to servers, it seems to be everywhere.

I expect to see the same thing from the 5600. With AMD still selling 5000-series CPUs and their prices so low, they must be incredibly tempting to anyone who needs a lot of CPUs.

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Post by viraptor »

dboreham wrote: post #468
viraptor wrote: post #314

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Any decommissioned office PC from eBay will be faster than $5 linode. For example search for optiflex https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=optiplex+pc&_udhi=30 They're not too power hungry either if you make sure not to go for i7s

But it'll cost $100+/yr in electricity.

There are optiplex models running at 14W or less when idle. In my area that's ~$20 per year. (It close to half of that in practice with solar)

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Post by princevegeta89 »

consumer451 wrote: post #455
princevegeta89 wrote: post #429

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It's an actual entire machine given to you. I remember there were a few options for me from Ubuntu, Debian to Red Hat to choose from, but all of them would also have preconfigured system users and some level of administration done by the provider. But other than that, it's an actual bare metal machine and I installed Ubuntu on it and threw in a giant heap of services that have been running on it for more than a year…

If you could rewind the clock, would you have started setting it up any differently, like in a container? I am just curious what your options would be now if you wanted to migrate. Would you just copy your bash history to a local text file for reference, and then repeat the steps on a new server?

No, I wouldn't have started differently and I like the performance and the dedicated hardware I get for the money I spend. I have a custom backup solution that will upload daily backups of all my data to remote drives and I should be able to restore the setup on another machine without much problem.
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