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Re: Show HN: Gridspot, 10x cheaper cloud compute using distributed computing

#61

This would be more cool if the portion of profits went to those who contributed cycles.

Wouldn't work. As soon as you move the incentive to the world of financial norms people start wondering why they are bothering for a couple bucks a year. They will get more people doing it to be part of a community if they can keep that community seeming "cool" in some way.

Exactly low pay (generally) provides more of a disincentive than no pay. OTOH if you say "we will donate to charity $x" that might work.

Re: Show HN: Gridspot, 10x cheaper cloud compute using distributed computing

#63
"While we allow Internet traffic from software doing compuations on our platform, it is all proxied seamlessly through a small set of computers operated by Gridspot."

Seems that that small set of computers and IP addresses could be used to do the ill deeds of a bad actor.

"Run anything"

"Get SSH root access to each Linux instance."

So exactly what is to prevent someone from spamming here and how would gridspot even know that was happening? To mention only one possibility.

Re: Show HN: Gridspot, 10x cheaper cloud compute using distributed computing

#64

Will you be charged for pre-credit card instances after you add a card? Also, it's very unclear as to how you end a running instance.

Yes, though I suppose you could just create another account. : ) You can stop a running instance by shutting down the OS. If it's something people really want we can add an API/UI mechanism to do it.

Huh, I did sudo shutdown now and it worked, but the gui says it's still running. So a button might be nice.

Re: Show HN: Gridspot, 10x cheaper cloud compute using distributed computing

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post #36

"Thus, we decided to only run computations when the outdoor temperature near the user is below a certain level (currently 16 degrees Celcius). When it's that cold outside, we assume that the computer's room is being heated anyway. All of the electricity used to do computations gets turned into heat, according to the laws of physics. So the heat generated by the computations displaces the need for heat generated by a…

I think their point in the passage that you quoted was to argue that it was environment-friendly, not cost-effective.

Re: Show HN: Gridspot, 10x cheaper cloud compute using distributed computing

#66
Here's how you sustain this model: package the VM with free software just like the toolbar guys do. You pay the software guys a cut of the profit for every setup they have running (referral fee) and users get a new way to "pay" for software. I like this idea much better than all the spyware/crapware software vendors have to package into their product to earn a living.

Consumers don't care about $2/month but a business would care about getting paid $2/month thousands of times.

Edit: If a VM is too big to download all at once with a freeware product, you just install the seed software. Then, over the next few days, the seed software downloads the VM and slowly sets it up so there's no disruption to the customer's activity on the computer.

I would also suggest you reserve the space needed on the disk with an empty file, roughly the size of the VM file. This way it's clear just how much space this newly installed software is taking on the customer's computer.

This is all based on the idea that the customer agreed to this during the installation. To what extent "agreed" is left up to you to decide. I'd suggest a dedicated page during the installation with a prechecked box that explains what this is and what it's about to do.

Re: Show HN: Gridspot, 10x cheaper cloud compute using distributed computing

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This is brilliant...I am glad someone finally ran with it. I wrote a blog post about this almost 2 years ago - http://marcgayle.com/2010/01/08/a-legal-botnet-billion-dolla... There are many applications for this - including fighting DDOS attacks. There are still huge technical challenges with that particular application, but as I understand it...the only way to fight a DDOS is to a) get bigger guns, or b) lie down an…

> including fighting DDOS attacks Or cheaply launching them. For a mere $100 you get 100,000 machines for an hour, that's more than enough to cause problems for a sad number of websites out there. Edit: Or not, given that all traffic goes through a centralized node.

Yeh....was about to say that I doubt that given the architecture. The difference is that there is a for-profit company that controls the nodes, so I doubt they would allow that. Completely different than a real botnet where the botnet owner controls everything.

Re: Show HN: Gridspot, 10x cheaper cloud compute using distributed computing

#69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So we're supposed to trust these people with our data?

No, it says it right on the page. It's for non-privacy-sensitive applications.

Presumably you are using the results of the distributed system's work for something. Can you trust those results from people who can't keep a web server alive?

Re: Show HN: Gridspot, 10x cheaper cloud compute using distributed computing

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So the customer pays Gridspot and Gridspot does not pay anything to the person whose computer is actually doing the work? Great business model if you can make it work.

reminds me of skype, but the differnce is that with skype I only want one good connection, so find the best one through the forest... but this one?

The difference is that most Skype users don't even know they are carrying traffic for the network. The client silently punches a whole in their router and makes itself a pain to close (for example by reconfiguring what the red X does) without ever explaining why it wants to keep running so badly.
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