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Re: Show HN: Gridspot, 10x cheaper cloud compute using distributed computing

#31

This is brilliant...I am glad someone finally ran with it. I wrote a blog post about this almost 2 years ago - http://marcgayle.com/2010/01/08/a-legal-botnet-billion-dolla... There are many applications for this - including fighting DDOS attacks. There are still huge technical challenges with that particular application, but as I understand it...the only way to fight a DDOS is to a) get bigger guns, or b) lie down an…

> including fighting DDOS attacks

Or cheaply launching them. For a mere $100 you get 100,000 machines for an hour, that's more than enough to cause problems for a sad number of websites out there. Edit: Or not, given that all traffic goes through a centralized node.

Re: Show HN: Gridspot, 10x cheaper cloud compute using distributed computing

#32
post #21

From [1] - "Our users volunteer their idle compute resources because they want to be part of something valuable to the world. We believe that this is a motivator far more powerful than paying people a small amount of money every month.". Yeah, I don't think that is going to work, especially because you are for-profit organization not SETI [1] - https://gridspot.com/gridspot_safe

Only running when the local grid machine is 16c weather? Well, looks like all of USA is off the map then.

http://www.weather.com/maps/maptype/currentweatherusnational...

Looks like Russia is off the map as well. As is most of Europe, save for parts of the UK.

You're good in Sydney though!

Re: Show HN: Gridspot, 10x cheaper cloud compute using distributed computing

#33
This seems too good to be true, but it's working great for me!

With no credit card, I got an instance with 3 GB RAM running in less than 60 seconds. It costs $0.002 per hour.

One glitch: Both the UI and the API say there are 2 instances running, but they both have the same IP address and port. If there really are 2 instances, how do I ssh to the second one?

Re: Show HN: Gridspot, 10x cheaper cloud compute using distributed computing

#34
post #26

This would be perfect for crawling with a large number of distinct IP addresses, or for fighting DDOS attacks. However: "All network traffic is proxied through a central data center we maintain." https://gridspot.com/compute/api_help

How is possible to fight a DDOS attack with lots of IP addresses?

Re: Show HN: Gridspot, 10x cheaper cloud compute using distributed computing

#35
post #33

This seems too good to be true, but it's working great for me! With no credit card, I got an instance with 3 GB RAM running in less than 60 seconds. It costs $0.002 per hour. One glitch: Both the UI and the API say there are 2 instances running, but they both have the same IP address and port. If there really are 2 instances, how do I ssh to the second one?

That sounds like a bug! Just sent you email : )

Re: Show HN: Gridspot, 10x cheaper cloud compute using distributed computing

#36
"Thus, we decided to only run computations when the outdoor temperature near the user is below a certain level (currently 16 degrees Celcius). When it's that cold outside, we assume that the computer's room is being heated anyway. All of the electricity used to do computations gets turned into heat, according to the laws of physics. So the heat generated by the computations displaces the need for heat generated by a heater, eliminating or minimizing the net elecricity usage."

https://gridspot.com/gridspot_safe

Doesn't work in the USA. Natural gas heating in the US averages $10.80/thousand cubic feet ~= $10/gigajoule [1]. Electricity averages $0.1179/kWh ~= $33/gigajoule [1] -- more than three as expensive for raw heat. Natural gas heating is twice as common in US homes, with about 55.6 million vs. 28.4 million using electric resistance heating [2] -- not including 9.8 million electric heat pumps.

In the common case, you're displacing cheap gas heating with expensive electric resistance heating; the cost "savings" on heating is small. At 100W power consumption, you're spending 1.2 cents/hour on electricity, saving 0.4 cents/hour on gas, for a net loss of 0.8 cents/hour. Meanwhile your CPU is being sold for 0.1 - 0.3 cents/hour [3] -- far less than the electricity needed to run it, apparently (?).

[1] http://www.eia.gov/forecasts/steo/report/prices.cfm (residential retail prices, 2011)

[2] (.xls) http://www.eia.gov/consumption/residential/data/2009/xls/HC6...

[3] https://gridspot.com/compute/

European costs for comparison:

[4] http://www.energy.eu/

Re: Show HN: Gridspot, 10x cheaper cloud compute using distributed computing

#39
post #33

This seems too good to be true, but it's working great for me! With no credit card, I got an instance with 3 GB RAM running in less than 60 seconds. It costs $0.002 per hour. One glitch: Both the UI and the API say there are 2 instances running, but they both have the same IP address and port. If there really are 2 instances, how do I ssh to the second one?

That sounds like a bug! Just sent you email : )

Another possible bug is that the UI reports 1.56 core-hours used, but my single-core instance has only been running 24 minutes.

Re: Show HN: Gridspot, 10x cheaper cloud compute using distributed computing

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post #34
post #26

This would be perfect for crawling with a large number of distinct IP addresses, or for fighting DDOS attacks. However: "All network traffic is proxied through a central data center we maintain." https://gridspot.com/compute/api_help

How is possible to fight a DDOS attack with lots of IP addresses?

I think panarky meant flee/hide from.
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