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Literally the business model of every "shared resource service model" on the planet. Hetzner's entire business model is built on this... them acting like they're shocked to discover this is... disingenuous at best.
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Hetzner have definitely always been scumbags about the bait & switch on aspects of their service like that. Granted it's pretty typical of the too good to be true rule of life.
Do you have any details? I was about to move all my services off from vultr to hetzner due to the much better pricing
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Well actually one meaning of the English word tariff is the same as the German meaning, although it's not as widely used. To quote Wiktionary: > tariff (plural tariffs) 1. A system of government-imposed duties levied on imported or exported goods; a list of such duties, or the duties themselves. 2. A schedule of rates, fees or prices. 3. (British) A sentence determined according to a scale of standard penalties for c…
It's closer to industry jargon at this point in American English. Search for LTL tariffs, for example, and you'll find a very long list of trucking companies publishing their fees and terms as tariffs.
"I changed electricity provider to one with an EV tariff."
I think OVH has a more logical bandwidth policy. They give you a certain Mbps cap, and that’s that. I haven’t used them personally, though, so can’t vouch for the experience. I’m curious to hear from folks who have used both providers.
They recently changed to bill by the hour. Not hard to destroy and reprovision once you're near the traffic limit. Massive loophole.
Yeah but if you're running something that is using a ton of bandwidth, presumably it's a service that needs to be online and reliable. Being cheap and constantly cycling out servers introduces complexity to your system. Hetzner could also easily change their terms to close this loophole if it's an actual problem.
And since internal traffic is free, you just need to cycle the ingress servers.
Pay for the cheapest instance, get 20TB of egress. Churn em and burn em.
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Yeah, the justification given makes absolutely no sense - you are paying more than before even if you stay under the new limit (which is 1/20th of the original!) They also use the word "tariff" several times without elaborating, as if the person who wrote the email doesn't know the actual meaning of the word. Seems like intentional deception to hide a standard "we just want more money" price raise.
"We just want more money" Is the standard operating procedure and the goal of all for-profit companies. How can hackers not understand this? Of course they will always want as much money as possible, and it is up to you as a customer to decide if their product is worth what they are asking or if you will go to a competitor.
When running small companies they still tend to be motivated by other things, such as proving a point, achieving a technical goal or having some cultural influence etc.
It's only when the company grows in size that it becomes this soulless greedy sociopath we are all too accustomed to.
Hetzner grew a lot those last 5 years or so.
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Not just mainly, but exclusively in my experience. (Import/export tariffs.) Until this thread, I have never encountered the term "bar tariff" for a list of drink prices, or "energy tariff" instead of rate. Those uses are simply not American English, and you would be misunderstood. Hetzner is a German company so I find myself wondering if this is a British usage, or a mistranslation of the German word "tarif" that sho…
It's perfectly acceptable British English. 21 occurrences of "tariff" on one of British Gas' pages: https://www.britishgas.co.uk/energy/guides/off-peak-electric... ("Your energy provider may offer time of use tariffs and cheaper night-time electricity rates.")
Is there any further distinction between a "tariff" and a "rate" in British English? The example sentence you provide uses both, which makes me wonder if there's even more to the picture here.
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As an engineer, if you don't qualify whether your answer is average or max, you've messed up.
As an engineer, NEVER give out averages without checking that they are consistent with the distribution of the actual data.