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Amazon tripled prices for the basic tier of their auth service Cognito

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Re: Amazon tripled prices for the basic tier of their auth service Cognito

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Here's the simple thing to know about AWS. They sell two great products (EC2 and S3) below market value so that you get locked in and their sales teams can upsell you on everything else. If you are a customer and are tempted to try out their alphabet soup of managed services because it all seems so convenient – don't.

SQS, SNS and Lambda are great as well

We LOVE Lambda and SQS.

Re: Amazon tripled prices for the basic tier of their auth service Cognito

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Here's the simple thing to know about AWS. They sell two great products (EC2 and S3) below market value so that you get locked in and their sales teams can upsell you on everything else. If you are a customer and are tempted to try out their alphabet soup of managed services because it all seems so convenient – don't.

SQS, SNS and Lambda are great as well

Okay! Apart from sanitation, medicine, education, wine, public order, irrigation, roads, the fresh-water system and public health, what have the Romans ever done for us!?

Re: Amazon tripled prices for the basic tier of their auth service Cognito

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Almost every other SaaS vendor supports multi-region active-active and Cognito does not. Who are we talking about here? Google and Azure?

auth0, okta, ping identity, azure, google

okta is not "active-active" in a multi-region sense, they run in a single active AWS single Region per-tenant. You can pay extra to have a faster failover in a region level failure scenario:

https://support.okta.com/help/s/article/overview-of-enhanced...

Re: Amazon tripled prices for the basic tier of their auth service Cognito

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And nobody saw this coming with the surge to “cloud”. /s I don’t like AWS but god damn they are good marketers and had some good leadership that actually was ahead of the curve. Instead of min/maxing the quarterly earning calls. Convince a nepo C-level executive of your offerings, wave your massive AWS dick while presenting your deck, throw in a few credits, keep it “cheap” for a number of years. Once the competition…

Let me ask you, non-combatively: do you think they can keep this up?

Their stock is bumping along at $200. If they can keep people coming in and staying, then the stock can go brrrr for decades. But if they cant, eg the trickle of CTOs repatriating workloads to prem becomes a roar, it wont, and AWS will turn into IBM.

You clearly have strong opinions on how AWS operates, but their stock holders are happy bunnies. What's your prediction?

Re: Amazon tripled prices for the basic tier of their auth service Cognito

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which do you recommend?

I'm biased but Stack Auth [0] is fully open-source, self-hostable, and we offer reasonably priced managed hosting, if that floats your boat. [0] https://github.com/stack-auth/stack

Looks really nice! Really need Remix and Tan-Stack support though - these are taking a lot of market share from Next.js because they have less confused models.

I think it shouldn't be too hard. I could even add Remix support for you if you wanted to do a contract (I am not able to do major open source work for free right now.)

Re: Amazon tripled prices for the basic tier of their auth service Cognito

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Here's the simple thing to know about AWS. They sell two great products (EC2 and S3) below market value so that you get locked in and their sales teams can upsell you on everything else. If you are a customer and are tempted to try out their alphabet soup of managed services because it all seems so convenient – don't.

EC2? It has not been under market value for a decade now. It used to take 12-24 months of on demand pricing to buy the hardware outright in the 00s. Today it's under 6 months for every instance type. With GPU instances being measured in weeks.

S3? Laughs in egress costs.

AWS considered harmful.

Re: Amazon tripled prices for the basic tier of their auth service Cognito

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And nobody saw this coming with the surge to “cloud”. /s I don’t like AWS but god damn they are good marketers and had some good leadership that actually was ahead of the curve. Instead of min/maxing the quarterly earning calls. Convince a nepo C-level executive of your offerings, wave your massive AWS dick while presenting your deck, throw in a few credits, keep it “cheap” for a number of years. Once the competition…

Let me ask you, non-combatively: do you think they can keep this up? Their stock is bumping along at $200. If they can keep people coming in and staying, then the stock can go brrrr for decades. But if they cant, eg the trickle of CTOs repatriating workloads to prem becomes a roar, it wont, and AWS will turn into IBM. You clearly have strong opinions on how AWS operates, but their stock holders are happy bunnies. Wha…

AWS is the new IBM.

The question is if we're living in the new 1970s or 2000s.

Re: Amazon tripled prices for the basic tier of their auth service Cognito

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

which do you recommend?

I'm biased but Stack Auth [0] is fully open-source, self-hostable, and we offer reasonably priced managed hosting, if that floats your boat. [0] https://github.com/stack-auth/stack

Wow I just got done integrating NextAuth. I will totally switch to this if you can support my mobile API. My nextjs app has some API routes used by my native iOS app. It was a bit of a hassle with NextAuth and I was surprised at the lack of support and demand for it (am I crazy for using next for a mobile API? I don't think so). If you support that use case (I didn't see anything in the docs), that would be great. I'm already done with the iOS portion, which basically stores the

Re: Amazon tripled prices for the basic tier of their auth service Cognito

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I think the author is confused. The previous "basic tier" is actually the "lite" tier. The prices are the same, but the number of "free" MAUs is reduced. The "advanced" and "essentials" tier include what seems to be new or expanded features like fully customizable logins and passwordless login options, so you have to pay more to access these features, but it looks like everything Cognito previously provided is in the…

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