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Re: Amazon tripled prices for the basic tier of their auth service Cognito

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Post by pajeetz »

jonahx wrote: post #17
bootstrpppin wrote: post #10

There are so many better Auth providers out there now - and some of them are free for the first 10k or so users (workOs has the first 1M users free!)

which do you recommend?

pocketbase, lucia auth, there are so many options that won't meter you for MAU for a user table in your database.

authentication is critical, you shouldn't be outsourcing this stuff anyhow. learn how to harden your box, use cloudflare tunnel and dont store passwords in plaintext.

its really not hard to do and constantly being gaslighted into paying someone to do it for you because everybody else is doing it is just irresponsible.

Re: Amazon tripled prices for the basic tier of their auth service Cognito

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Post by yazaddaruvala »

paxys wrote: post #12

Here's the simple thing to know about AWS. They sell two great products (EC2 and S3) below market value so that you get locked in and their sales teams can upsell you on everything else. If you are a customer and are tempted to try out their alphabet soup of managed services because it all seems so convenient – don't.

Gotta love Step Functions, Lambda, and also Kinesis Firehose!

Re: Amazon tripled prices for the basic tier of their auth service Cognito

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Post by ak217 »

nostrebored wrote: post #30
ak217 wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Had some pretty negative experiences with pricing/"enterprise" sales tactics by Okta (which now owns Auth0, and they used the same tactics on both products). I will take AWS pricing shenanigans over that any day.

I'll take the scummy sales tactics over the cognito API any day of the week

Given the choice between a crummy API and being driven bankrupt by a SaaS vendor, I prefer a crummy API. I suppose your calculus might look different if you have a lot of money or an employer with great negotiating leverage.

Re: Amazon tripled prices for the basic tier of their auth service Cognito

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Post by ak217 »

mschuster91 wrote: post #28
nostrebored wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

auth0, okta, ping identity, azure, google

Okta has been plagued by security issues [1], never heard of Ping Identity, Azure only makes sense if you get a sweetheart deal and are willing to deal with Azure's crap, and I'd never recommend anyone to use anything Google any more. [1] https://www.flyingpenguin.com/?p=54722

Ping is one of the oldest players in the business, they were founded in 2002 and had one of the earliest identity PaaS in the market (at least as far back as 2012). Haven't used their products much though.

Re: Amazon tripled prices for the basic tier of their auth service Cognito

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Post by 0xbadcafebee »

infecto wrote: post #29
rafaelmn wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

EC2 sold below market rate ? S3 I could argue somehow (unconvincingly). But what's the argument for EC2 ?

Who’s actually paying list price?

Anyone with more cash than sense, which is a lot of people. Every business I've worked for hooked up a credit card to AWS and never asked questions, until millions of wasted dollars later. Gotta love daddy corps with billions in reserve, and VC money that pours in like rain. I've been rebuffed multiple times trying to get them to buy SPs and RIs.

Re: Amazon tripled prices for the basic tier of their auth service Cognito

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Post by jonahx »

pajeetz wrote: post #31
jonahx wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

which do you recommend?

pocketbase, lucia auth, there are so many options that won't meter you for MAU for a user table in your database. authentication is critical, you shouldn't be outsourcing this stuff anyhow. learn how to harden your box, use cloudflare tunnel and dont store passwords in plaintext. its really not hard to do and constantly being gaslighted into paying someone to do it for you because everybody else is doing it is just i…

Very much agree with your attitude here. What happens is that nice to have features like email reset/email magic login/social logins/etc accumulate and you don't want to be on the hook for implementing them all yourself, especially with other priorities. Ofc there are open solutions for most of these in most popular languages, but I've found even those take non-trivial amounts of time to setup right and test, and often aren't exactly what you want, or have unnecessary complexity.

Re: Amazon tripled prices for the basic tier of their auth service Cognito

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Post by rescbr »

infecto wrote: post #29
rafaelmn wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

EC2 sold below market rate ? S3 I could argue somehow (unconvincingly). But what's the argument for EC2 ?

Who’s actually paying list price?

Everybody who isn’t big enough to have an EDP in place.

Even then, you give some of the discount back as AWS Enterprise Support charges :)

Re: Amazon tripled prices for the basic tier of their auth service Cognito

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Post by n2d4 »

jonahx wrote: post #17
bootstrpppin wrote: post #10

There are so many better Auth providers out there now - and some of them are free for the first 10k or so users (workOs has the first 1M users free!)

which do you recommend?

I'm biased but Stack Auth [0] is fully open-source, self-hostable, and we offer reasonably priced managed hosting, if that floats your boat.

[0] https://github.com/stack-auth/stack

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