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Re: Cybertruck's Many Recalls

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Post by __m »

renewiltord wrote: post #27

Dude, the thing with these things is that the breathlessness has already exhausted belief. Supposedly Tesla Y was a terrible thing, supposedly everyone was going to die in the heat under the Tesla tent, supposedly Twitter would die in 3 days without their staff. Nothing happened. Everyone I know who owns a Tesla loves it. So I’m going to file this under “internet hates guy; tries to make it sound like he makes bad th…

> which people do a lot with Musk stuff.

Rightfully so? I mean you can't build up a personality cult and then separate the guy from the product.

But regardless of musk, you have to agree that the cybertruck has issues and underdelivered.

Re: Cybertruck's Many Recalls

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Post by the_clarence »

nahwut wrote: post #30
sitkack wrote: post #3

The article has about equal time about what Cybertruck owners dont care about, safety, reliability, etc. > Similar to other critics (earlier this year, a CNN reviewer called the pickup a “disturbing level of individual arrogance in hard, unforgiving steel”)—Drury believes Cybertruck buyers are people “who think ‘I don’t care if I kill people when I drive this thing down the street,’” he says. “There aren’t many of th…

What's the term right wing folks use? Virtue Signaling? The cyber truck is that. People buy them because they are politically charged, and you can be seen as a tribe member. But I kinda think it's sad, because I think most tribes make fun of the cyber truck buyer, so they've bought a very expensive, very shoddy ticket into an in group, only to mark themselves as an outsider who bought their way in.

I'm a leftist and would definitely buy a cyber truck if I could park it easily

Re: Cybertruck's Many Recalls

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Post by jmb99 »

Aeolun wrote: post #116
imiric wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The problem is that those issues shouldn't happen on a public road vehicle to begin with. Tesla's approach is shipping beta software to customers, and using them as testers. This is an insidious practice in modern software development, but is criminal when that software is running a 3-ton vehicle, regardless if it can be fixed with an OTA update or not. There are reasons why strict car safety regulations exist. You c…

I completely agree, but saying it's a 'recall' when your car sits in your driveway still feels entirely wrong.

Recall is the industry-standard (and populace-understood) term for “this vehicle has a safety or reliability issue that must be resolved by the manufacturer.” It is all encompassing; anything from possibly loose lugnuts to faulty airbags to engine failures to yes, the reverse camera failing to appear. It doesn’t matter if the manufacturer ships an OTA update, shows up at your house with a loaner and a flatbed to take your car, or requires you to go into the dealership for service, it’s a recall.

Re: Cybertruck's Many Recalls

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Post by throwaway8754aw »

bboygravity wrote: post #15
LeoPanthera wrote: post #4

The article notes that the most recent recall was a physical one, not a software update, and implies that that was unusual. I wonder if you exclude "recalls" resolved by software updates, for all cars, where it would rank then?

If that's indeed it, I would rank the article as worse than 91 percent of ordinary boring Elon and Tesla bashing in 2024. I guess on a positive note they stopped posting that Tesla is almost bankrupt for the 1000th time because Elon.

Elon is out for Elon always ..a slimey used car salesman I.e. bring out the AI Optimus robots all controlled by AI. Not!

Elon is Trump's next Omarosa...

Re: Cybertruck's Many Recalls

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Post by IshKebab »

fastball wrote: post #68
serf wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

most people care about scratches because they look like shit. paint is a bit more than just corrosion protection at this point, otherwise mfgs would just slap on the thickest toughest machine-tool grade enamel and call it a day. why don't they? because it looks terrible.

And most cars end up scratched anyway, and most owners do not take their car in for detailing every time this happens (if at all).

Most cars don't end up scratched. They definitely don't end up scratched after 1 year.

Re: Cybertruck's Many Recalls

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Post by karlgkk »

LeoPanthera wrote: post #4

The article notes that the most recent recall was a physical one, not a software update, and implies that that was unusual. I wonder if you exclude "recalls" resolved by software updates, for all cars, where it would rank then?

> I wonder if you exclude "recalls" resolved by software updates, for all cars, where it would rank then?

While I agree that the term "recall" is overloaded, the Cybertruck has had some pretty spicy safety related "recalls". Issues that, frankly, it should not have been allowed onto public roads with.

Re: Cybertruck's Many Recalls

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Post by tareqak »

Veserv wrote: post #61
pbreit wrote: post #8

Are these "recalls" just simple over the air software updates? Just because car people are not used to this doesn't make it necessarily bad. Obviously no bugs are better than some bugs. But people here tend to know how software development works.

This always comes up. A “recall” is not a description of the remediation, it is a description of the problem. A recall is a public dangerous defect notice. The dangerous product version can no longer be deployed, existing systems suffering from the dangerous defect are identified, and then the version with those dangerous defects is removed from the market with all due speed by either refunding, replacing, or remedia…

To your point, both things can be true. The CyberTruck can have recalls worse than 91% of all 2024 cars, but many of its recalls can be cheap to for Tesla to fix.

I think that is where the two clusters of people that I see commenting here are converging / possibly arguing past each other.

One popular form of headline that comes to my mind from business new channels of which I remember no specific instance basically goes like this: “Car manufacturer recalls X many cars costing over them Y dollars because of some fault”. X is usually in the tens of thousands or more and Y is usually in the millions of dollars (now maybe tens of millions of dollars).

Re: Cybertruck's Many Recalls

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Post by karlgkk »

Aeolun wrote: post #116
imiric wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The problem is that those issues shouldn't happen on a public road vehicle to begin with. Tesla's approach is shipping beta software to customers, and using them as testers. This is an insidious practice in modern software development, but is criminal when that software is running a 3-ton vehicle, regardless if it can be fixed with an OTA update or not. There are reasons why strict car safety regulations exist. You c…

I completely agree, but saying it's a 'recall' when your car sits in your driveway still feels entirely wrong.

Sure it's wrong, but it's actually to Tesla's benefit IMO

Which of these would you, a Tesla stakeholder, prefer the news to report:

- Tesla Cybertruck has recall

- Tesla Cybertruck receives software update that resolves issue that put public safety at risk

Re: Cybertruck's Many Recalls

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Post by ryzvonusef »

ikeamykea wrote: post #93
ryzvonusef wrote: post #60

man, the internet is being so weird about this truck it's absurd. Like its shape is weird and 'dangerous', but the F150, RAM truck etc etc are MORE dangerous shape wise, but because it has a 'conventional' shape and the change happened gradually, some how it's ok? The strangest was the carrot test, they kept doing this test the Cyber truck frunk... but guess what, same happens if you put carrots across the opening of…

I love how people who claim to not care dedicate so much time to telling everyone how much they don’t care. You could have just not posted. But clearly you do care a lot. Get help.

But I do care!

I care about EVs and climate change and emission reduction and all that.

What I don't care about is the Electric vehicle news feed being polluted with irrelevant nonsense when there are far more important news to be shared.

I don't care about the Cybertruck's oddities... because those oddities are common to other american EV trucks and therefore bring nothing new to the table.

Re: Cybertruck's Many Recalls

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Post by blackeyeblitzar »

seaal wrote: post #112
blackeyeblitzar wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are those from Tesla itself or a third party? Can you get any color?

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> Are you scared of Google?

Where do you see options for wraps on the Cybertruck ordering page? https://www.tesla.com/cybertruck/design

I don’t see anything on the Cybertruck accessory page either: https://shop.tesla.com/category/vehicle-accessories/cybertru...

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