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A century later, a taped message solves the mystery of a WWI doughboy's death

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Re: A century later, a taped message solves the mystery of a WWI doughboy's death

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Post by justinclift »

NoMoreNicksLeft wrote: post #25
fractallyte wrote: post #5

"It has been said that history repeats itself. This is perhaps not quite correct; it merely rhymes." - Theodor Reik The same tragic, traumatic events are being "rhymed" now in Ukraine. Yeah, perhaps we're tired of hearing it - but I'm writing this because after 110 years of industrialized warfare, our institutions and systems have still not restructured themselves to prevent these cascades of events. The consequences…

> I'll be quite clear about it: a nuclear superpower invaded a disarmed neighbor, and is currently committing genocide on its territory. This is unquestionably, unconscionably, unacceptably wrong. Gee, when you put it like that, why are we waiting to conscript my only son and send him to die in foreign lands?

And that's why having more than 1 kid is generally a good idea. :)

Pity about it costing money though. :(

Re: A century later, a taped message solves the mystery of a WWI doughboy's death

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Post by ramon156 »

egisspegis wrote: post #23
russiashill111 wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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I assume your nickname was supposed to be sarcastic, but man... "Regarding genocide, here is zero evidence of that." - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_genocide_of_Ukr... I invite you to pay attention to the "Evidence of genocidal intent" chapter. The same intent that Israel lacks.

No point in fighting a Russian Propaganda Bot

Re: A century later, a taped message solves the mystery of a WWI doughboy's death

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Post by aguaviva »

egisspegis wrote: post #23
russiashill111 wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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I assume your nickname was supposed to be sarcastic, but man... "Regarding genocide, here is zero evidence of that." - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_genocide_of_Ukr... I invite you to pay attention to the "Evidence of genocidal intent" chapter. The same intent that Israel lacks.

"Regarding genocide, here is zero evidence of that."

The actual section of the WP article you're referring to comes to no conclusions on the matter.

It's just a giant hatchet job, a mishmash of conflicting opinions.

Re: A century later, a taped message solves the mystery of a WWI doughboy's death

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Post by aguaviva »

rwyinuse wrote: post #33
russiashill111 wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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The main reason for the invasion is that Putin believes independent Ukraine shouldn't exist, and that it all belongs to Russia for historical reasons. It's obvious if you actually listen Putin's speeches. NATO is just an useful scapegoat to justify Russia's imperialistic tendencies. During the period between fall of the Soviet Union and invasion of Crimea Russian businessmen here in Finland kept buying locations and…

The main reason for the invasion is that Putin believes independent Ukraine shouldn't exist, and that it all belongs to Russia for historical reasons. It's obvious if you actually listen Putin's speeches.

Synder goes further, and suggests that Putin's view that Ukraine never "really" existed, and was in essence basically a fake country (society, culture, identity) all along.

Which explains a lot of things; like how he seemed so confident that he could just plough in there, and grab pretty much as much of the country as he wanted in a few weeks. Because how could such a "non-society" possibly come together and mount an organized defense?

In any case -- it's definitely not hard to figure out. The man is practically an open book, at least in terms of his core motivations and his basic attitude toward Ukraine -- and many of his choice phrases are quite revealing. One just needs to be able to read between the lines, in certain places (and not simply take everything he says at face value).

Re: A century later, a taped message solves the mystery of a WWI doughboy's death

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Post by [deleted] »

arcbyte wrote: post #46
fractallyte wrote: post #5

"It has been said that history repeats itself. This is perhaps not quite correct; it merely rhymes." - Theodor Reik The same tragic, traumatic events are being "rhymed" now in Ukraine. Yeah, perhaps we're tired of hearing it - but I'm writing this because after 110 years of industrialized warfare, our institutions and systems have still not restructured themselves to prevent these cascades of events. The consequences…

Im as firmly in the camp believing Russia needs to ve stopped in Ukraine at all costs as you are, but stop with the genocide claims. It's so obviously not genocide that you are just crying wolf

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Re: A century later, a taped message solves the mystery of a WWI doughboy's death

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Post by fractallyte »

arcbyte wrote: post #46
fractallyte wrote: post #5

"It has been said that history repeats itself. This is perhaps not quite correct; it merely rhymes." - Theodor Reik The same tragic, traumatic events are being "rhymed" now in Ukraine. Yeah, perhaps we're tired of hearing it - but I'm writing this because after 110 years of industrialized warfare, our institutions and systems have still not restructured themselves to prevent these cascades of events. The consequences…

Im as firmly in the camp believing Russia needs to ve stopped in Ukraine at all costs as you are, but stop with the genocide claims. It's so obviously not genocide that you are just crying wolf

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_genocide_of_Ukr...

I've also read posts from credible people suggesting that worse things are happening on territories still under Russian occupation. If those (unconfirmed) rumors are true, they would be the horrifying atrocities with genocidal intent since WW2.

Re: A century later, a taped message solves the mystery of a WWI doughboy's death

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Post by NoMoreNicksLeft »

justinclift wrote: post #51
NoMoreNicksLeft wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I'll be quite clear about it: a nuclear superpower invaded a disarmed neighbor, and is currently committing genocide on its territory. This is unquestionably, unconscionably, unacceptably wrong. Gee, when you put it like that, why are we waiting to conscript my only son and send him to die in foreign lands?

And that's why having more than 1 kid is generally a good idea. :) Pity about it costing money though. :(

None of my children are fungible. I keep reading about how Selective Service will autoamtically register young men now based on the social security database. Glad we were careful with the paperwork at the hospital and kept him out of that. Maybe we'll be able to sail through this.

Re: A century later, a taped message solves the mystery of a WWI doughboy's death

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Post by NoMoreNicksLeft »

beretguy wrote: post #27
NoMoreNicksLeft wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I'll be quite clear about it: a nuclear superpower invaded a disarmed neighbor, and is currently committing genocide on its territory. This is unquestionably, unconscionably, unacceptably wrong. Gee, when you put it like that, why are we waiting to conscript my only son and send him to die in foreign lands?

Foreign lands? We all live on the same planet.

Kumbaya!

Re: A century later, a taped message solves the mystery of a WWI doughboy's death

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Post by StefanBatory »

jeremyjh wrote: post #43
jajko wrote: post #32

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Must be a long Sunday in FSB/GRU offices, no? Or did they move you to yet another military department?

I'd imagine this sort of thing is fully automated at this point.

On a local Polish forum I use a "Polish Pole patriot" that has been espousing pro-Russian views posted an picture of himself... in a Russian time zone ;)

Re: A century later, a taped message solves the mystery of a WWI doughboy's death

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Post by eitland »

amritananda wrote: post #30
eitland wrote: post #18

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> while Israel seems less interested in incorporating Gazans as equal Israeli citizens any time soon. Israel doesn't want to control Gaza. Israel want to coexist peacefully with it and has been willing to go very far and take risks to achieve that. This is very clear when you study its relation with Egypt, Jordan and Gaza. The fact that Jordan and Egypt has not seen a single attack after they stopped attacking Israel…

>Israel doesn't want to control Gaza. Israel want to coexist peacefully with it and has been willing to go very far and take risks to achieve that. I think it's good to apply Mearsheimer's realist thinking here, and the intention is obviously clear that Israel does not want peace with Gaza as that would require recognition of a Palestinian state as the PLO had wanted since the 70s, which is a non-starter. Instead, as…

> I think it's good to apply Mearsheimer's realist thinking here, and the intention is obviously clear that Israel does not want peace with Gaza

From what I see from my perspective:

Last time it was on the table the deal was so good PLO realized it could be forced into a real two state solution with peace and permanent borders.

At that time the PLO, not Israel, left the negotiating table without even a counteroffer.

For me, from all I see from the rhetoric, Arab organizations want all:

- right of return for them

- no compensation or right of return for Jews forced into Israel from surrounding areas

- no permanent borders and peace, they see it only as a first step

> as that would require recognition of a Palestinian state as the PLO had wanted since the 70s

Let's also for completeness include that PLO want to eradicate Israel, and are brazen enough to have it in their official charter.

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