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A century later, a taped message solves the mystery of a WWI doughboy's death

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Re: A century later, a taped message solves the mystery of a WWI doughboy's death

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Post by andyferris »

russiashill111 wrote: post #8
fractallyte wrote: post #5

"It has been said that history repeats itself. This is perhaps not quite correct; it merely rhymes." - Theodor Reik The same tragic, traumatic events are being "rhymed" now in Ukraine. Yeah, perhaps we're tired of hearing it - but I'm writing this because after 110 years of industrialized warfare, our institutions and systems have still not restructured themselves to prevent these cascades of events. The consequences…

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I believe this disarmed part is referring to the nukes Ukraine used to hold, specifically.

On the other point, Russia intends to hold the territory and integrate the civilian population they conquer while Israel seems less interested in incorporating Gazans as equal Israeli citizens any time soon. (Not defending Russia but I suspect the different motives lead to different outcomes).

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Post by metabagel »

russiashill111 wrote: post #8
fractallyte wrote: post #5

"It has been said that history repeats itself. This is perhaps not quite correct; it merely rhymes." - Theodor Reik The same tragic, traumatic events are being "rhymed" now in Ukraine. Yeah, perhaps we're tired of hearing it - but I'm writing this because after 110 years of industrialized warfare, our institutions and systems have still not restructured themselves to prevent these cascades of events. The consequences…

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> it is clear that Russia is targeting infrastructure and not humans

Russia is targeting both. In particular, Russia targets glide bombs without precision at cities. There are also cases like Bucha, where people were rounded up and killed. And the execution of POWs.

Keep in mind that Gaza is both more concentrated, and it doesn’t have air defense systems like Ukraine does.

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Post by FpUser »

fractallyte wrote: post #5

"It has been said that history repeats itself. This is perhaps not quite correct; it merely rhymes." - Theodor Reik The same tragic, traumatic events are being "rhymed" now in Ukraine. Yeah, perhaps we're tired of hearing it - but I'm writing this because after 110 years of industrialized warfare, our institutions and systems have still not restructured themselves to prevent these cascades of events. The consequences…

>" And most of us on HN have a healthy, deeply internalized sense of morality."

Really. I's say sense of delusion. I think that ratio of assholes to normal is about the same in highly educated vs your regular factory workers.

>"I really hope some of us will branch out into politics or other power-positions in those institutions, and start knocking people's heads together."

Sure. PhD in physics, that's all it takes for politicians to fix everything. This is delirium

Re: A century later, a taped message solves the mystery of a WWI doughboy's death

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Post by metabagel »

russiashill111 wrote: post #8
fractallyte wrote: post #5

"It has been said that history repeats itself. This is perhaps not quite correct; it merely rhymes." - Theodor Reik The same tragic, traumatic events are being "rhymed" now in Ukraine. Yeah, perhaps we're tired of hearing it - but I'm writing this because after 110 years of industrialized warfare, our institutions and systems have still not restructured themselves to prevent these cascades of events. The consequences…

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This qualifies as an act of genocide:

https://www.icc-cpi.int/news/situation-ukraine-icc-judges-is...

Putin wants to destroy Ukraine as a nation and obliterate Ukrainian identity.

Re: A century later, a taped message solves the mystery of a WWI doughboy's death

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Post by FpUser »

metabagel wrote: post #12
russiashill111 wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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> it is clear that Russia is targeting infrastructure and not humans Russia is targeting both. In particular, Russia targets glide bombs without precision at cities. There are also cases like Bucha, where people were rounded up and killed. And the execution of POWs. Keep in mind that Gaza is both more concentrated, and it doesn’t have air defense systems like Ukraine does.

>"Keep in mind that Gaza is both more concentrated, and it doesn’t have air defense systems like Ukraine does."

And their civilians are holding it wrong. /s

Re: A century later, a taped message solves the mystery of a WWI doughboy's death

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Post by CobrastanJorji »

smitty1e wrote: post #2

"Sixteen years old when I went to the war To fight for a land fit for heroes God on my side, and a gun in my hand Chasing my days down to zero"--Motorhead, 1916 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTG6I3jxdnc

I was the first fruits of the battle of Missionary Ridge.

When I felt the bullet enter my heart

I wished I had staid at home and gone to jail

For stealing the hogs of Curl Trenary,

Instead of running away and joining the army.

Rather a thousand times the country jail

Than to lie under this marble figure with wings,

And this granite pedestal

Bearing the words, ”Pro Patria.”

What do they mean, anyway?

- Edgar Lee Masters, from Spoon River Anthology.

Re: A century later, a taped message solves the mystery of a WWI doughboy's death

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Post by eitland »

metabagel wrote: post #12
russiashill111 wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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> it is clear that Russia is targeting infrastructure and not humans Russia is targeting both. In particular, Russia targets glide bombs without precision at cities. There are also cases like Bucha, where people were rounded up and killed. And the execution of POWs. Keep in mind that Gaza is both more concentrated, and it doesn’t have air defense systems like Ukraine does.

More importantly, while Ukraine has a developed network of shelters for protection of civilians and procedures for evacuating civilians, if necessary by force, the authorities in Gaza have been very clear that shelters are only for militants and they have also used force to keep civilians from evacuating.

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Post by eitland »

andyferris wrote: post #11
russiashill111 wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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I believe this disarmed part is referring to the nukes Ukraine used to hold, specifically. On the other point, Russia intends to hold the territory and integrate the civilian population they conquer while Israel seems less interested in incorporating Gazans as equal Israeli citizens any time soon. (Not defending Russia but I suspect the different motives lead to different outcomes).

> while Israel seems less interested in incorporating Gazans as equal Israeli citizens any time soon.

Israel doesn't want to control Gaza. Israel want to coexist peacefully with it and has been willing to go very far and take risks to achieve that.

This is very clear when you study its relation with Egypt, Jordan and Gaza.

The fact that Jordan and Egypt has not seen a single attack after they stopped attacking Israel is well known.

On the topic of Gaza it seems to be a lot of confusion, but here are some details people often leave out:

- Israel voluntarily left Gaza in anticipation of a permanent peace deal

- Israel wanted Gaza to succeed and forcefully removed their own people

- Israel left infrastructure behind

- Israel, in the beginning, had relatively open borders towards Gaza

- There was hospital cooperation so people could easily be rushed from Gaza to Israeli hospitals to save lives

- Gradually the borders have been closed more and more. Each of these restrictions have a reason written in blood.

- Yes, that includes the reasons why ambulances are not allowed to cross into Israel without inspection, Gazan terrorists abused even that opportunity to stage attacks

- The border have been restricted more and more thanks to this, but even until 07. of October last year, people could live in Gaza and work in Israel

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Post by Hilift »

The allies threw 7,800 bodies at the Battle of Blanc Mont right as the war was ending. Two days after the battle, Germany requested an armistice, and the Austro-Hungarian and Ottoman empires disintegrated. Two months later in the US in 1919, prohibition went into effect, 26 cities had violent race riots, and the Attorney General began a purge of immigrants and communists. In 1920, the Republican Party returned to the White House with the landslide victory of Warren G. Harding, who promised a "return to normalcy" after the years of war, ethnic hatreds, race riots and exhausting reforms. Harding used new advertising techniques to lead the GOP to a massive landslide. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_United_States_(...
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