The size of BYD's factory

Post by matthewdgreen » Sun, Nov 24, 2024, 9:17 PM UTC

saturn8601 wrote: post #52

ChumpGPT wrote: post #19

US/German manufacturers just do assembly, they don't manufacture parts, so they only need assembly plants. BYD is a vertically integrated manufacturer. They make everything in-house which helps drive down costs. This huge footprint results in having all those different manufacturing lines under one roof. They depend on no one for finished parts, the only supply chain is raw materials.

People are waking up, and to be fair, Tesla really led the way in the US for the last few years because they had no choice(no one would take them seriously). The question is can the West turn the ship around before its too late?

Post by okaram » Sun, Nov 24, 2024, 9:19 PM UTC

jajko wrote: post #77

edhelas wrote: post #25

All this to produce machines of 2T to displace 80kg of human on average (think about it, the battery weight more than what it actually need to move on average) and maintain/develop car dependency infrastructures. This is the worst way of improving our efficiency and progress toward a more optimized, efficient economy and reducing massively our climate and biodiversity impact. I want those kind of factories to produce…

For the 1000th time here, even extremely well developed public transport by US standards and various financial punishments for owning cars is simply not enough for people to drop them, the convenience is simply too high. Look at Switzerland, it has all you want - one of the best rail networks in the world, its tiny, rest of public transport is as good as western Europe can get yet... folks still keep buying new cars,…

Post by _DeadFred_ » Sun, Nov 24, 2024, 9:21 PM UTC

sbierwagen wrote: post #56

ChumpGPT wrote: post #19

US/German manufacturers just do assembly, they don't manufacture parts, so they only need assembly plants. BYD is a vertically integrated manufacturer. They make everything in-house which helps drive down costs. This huge footprint results in having all those different manufacturing lines under one roof. They depend on no one for finished parts, the only supply chain is raw materials.

Not entirely correct. Boeing, despite all the bad press, actually reversed course on this recently. 787's wing was made by a supplier, but 777X's wing is actually built in-house, right next to the main factory, starting from carbon fiber fabric.

Post by acdha » Sun, Nov 24, 2024, 9:23 PM UTC

TeMPOraL wrote: post #114

acdha wrote: post #113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At least 80% of urban car trips could be replaced since the invention of the e-cargo bike. That doesn’t mean it works everywhere, of course, but there are millions and millions of people driving a single digit number of miles, usually at slower than bicycle doors-to-door speeds, and are never carrying 3+ kids and hundreds of pounds of cargo.

Think roads, not cars.

Post by dublinben » Sun, Nov 24, 2024, 9:25 PM UTC

TeMPOraL wrote: post #87

wbl wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not that expensive to put down a bike lane.

Bike lanes and bikes aren't alternatives to most of what motorized transport is providing.