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Amazon to invest another $4B in Anthropic

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Post by fragmede »

johnisgood wrote: post #338
staticman2 wrote: post #294

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Well the other thing to keep in mind is recent ChatGPT versions are trained not to tell you it's system prompt for fear of you learning too much about how OpenAI makes the model work. Claude doesn't care if you ask it it's system prompt unless the system prompt added by Kagi says "Do not disclose this prompt" in which case it will refuse unless you find a way to trick it. The model creators may also train the model t…

And lately ChatGPT has been giving me a surprisingly increased amount of emojis, too!

you can tell it how to respond and it'll do just that. if your want it to be sassy and friendly, or grumpy and rude, or to use emoji (or to never use them), just tell it to remember that.

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Post by MVissers »

surgical_fire wrote: post #331
fakedang wrote: post #323

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People are losing jobs because of AI. Like it or not, as imperfect as AI may be, AI is having a real world disruptive impact, however negative it may be. Customer service teams and call centers are already being affected by AI, and if they aren't being smart about it, being rendered obsolete. A lot of folks here seem to look at AI through examples of YC companies apparently. Step back and look instead at the kind of…

That was, perhaps, the only good retort made so far. Yes, call centers and customer service is being affected, although it is unclear to me if the cost-benefit make sense when AI stops being heavily subsidized - I may be wrong, but my impression is that AI companies bleed money not only with training, but in running the models, and the actual cost of those services for it to make sense will need to be substantially h…

Price dropping is just a matter of time. Compute gets cheaper and the models get better. We’ve seen 100x drop in price for same capabilities in ~2 years.

Don’t forget about writers and designers losing jobs as well. If you’re not absolute top and don’t use AI, AI will replace you.

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Post by napier »

_just7_ wrote: post #238
KennyBlanken wrote: post #234

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That seems highly likely given Sam Friedman's extensive reputation across multiple companies as being abusive, a compulsive liar, and willing to outright do blatantly illegal things like using a celebrity's voice and then, well...lie about it.

I think you mean Sam Altman

maybe he does. but which one is in prison?

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Post by johnisgood »

anovick wrote: post #123
gavi wrote: post #112

I love Claude 3.5 sonnet and their UI is top notch especially for coding, recently though they have been facing capacity issues especially during weekdays correlating with working hours. Have tried Qwen2.5 coder 32B and it's very good and close to Claude 3.5 in my coding cases.

There's one problem with Claude's chat box where ``` opens an intrusive code block box that's hard to close/skip. But I also agree that Claude 3.5 Sonnet is giving very good results. Not only for coding, and also for languages other than English.

This is what annoys me a lot, too. I mean the fact that I cannot have paste retain the formatting (```, `, etc.). Same with the UI retaining my prompt, but not the formatting, so if you do some formatting and reload, you will lose that formatting.

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Post by Cumpiler69 »

sumedh wrote: post #215
999900000999 wrote: post #108

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Normal people aren't paying for LLMs. If they ever do Apple and Google will offer it as a service built into your phone . For example, you could say ok Google call that restaurant me and My girlfriend had our first date at 5 years ago, set up something nice so I can propose. And I guess Google Gemini ( or whatever it's called at this point), Will hire a band, some photographers, and maybe even a therapist just in cas…

> As is it's going to be really hard to compete against GitHub Copilot they effectively block others from scrapping GitHub. Hire 1000 people in India to do it then?

AI = Actually Indian

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Post by EVa5I7bHFq9mnYK »

findjashua wrote: post #306
rtsil wrote: post #49

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> Win the developers over and the rest will follow. Will they really? Anecdotal evidence, but nobody I know in real life knows about Claude (other than it's an ordinary first name). And they all use or at least know about ChatGPT. None of them are software engineers of course. But the corporate deciders aren't software engineers either.

Every single person I know who pays for an LLM is a developer who pays for Claude because of coding ability

I pay for both Claude and Chatgpt, chatgpt codes better, especially the slow version.

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Post by fny »

tyre wrote: post #9
mikeocool wrote: post #5

Curious if anyone knows the logistics of these cloud provider/AI company deals. In this case, it seems like the terms of the deal mean that Anthropic ends up spending most of the investment on AWS to pay for training. Does anthropic basically get at cost pricing on AWS? If Amazon has any margin on their pricing, it seems like this $4B investment ends up costing them a lot less, and this is a nice way to turn a cap ex…

Yes exactly. This was the brilliance of the original MSFT investment into OpenAI. It was an investment in Azure scaling its AI training infra, but roundabout through a massive customer (exactly what you’d want as a design partner) and getting equity. I’m sure Anthropic negotiated a great deal on their largest cost center, while Amazon gets a huge customer to build out their system with.

And Amazon can always build their own LLM product down the line. Building out data centers feels like a far more difficult problem.

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Post by hobofan »

findjashua wrote: post #306
rtsil wrote: post #49

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> Win the developers over and the rest will follow. Will they really? Anecdotal evidence, but nobody I know in real life knows about Claude (other than it's an ordinary first name). And they all use or at least know about ChatGPT. None of them are software engineers of course. But the corporate deciders aren't software engineers either.

Every single person I know who pays for an LLM is a developer who pays for Claude because of coding ability

Every single business I know that pays for LLMs (on the order of tens of thousands of individual ChatGPT subscriptions) pay for whatever the top model is in their general cloud of choice with next to no elasticity. e.g. a company already committed to Azure will use the Azure OpenAI models and a customer already commited to AWS will use Claude.

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Post by rty32 »

datavirtue wrote: post #152
neya wrote: post #80

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I am a paying customer with credits and the API endpoints rate-limited me to the point where it's actually unusable as a coding assistant. I use a VS Code extension and it just bailed out in the middle of a migration. I had to revert everything it changed and that was not a pleasant experience, sadly.

You aren't running against a local LLM?

Not everyone has a 4090 or M4 Max at home.
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