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Re: ICC issues warrants for Netanyahu, Gallant, and Hamas officials

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(before you jump into discussion, remember that this only about these two individuals) ICC and the prosecutor are on very solid ground here. The prosecutor asked opinions from a impartial panel of experts in international law. The panel included people like Theodor Meron (former Legal adviser for the Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs), Helene Kennedy, Adrian Fulford. Netanyahu and Yoav Gallant provided plenty of ev…

> Gallant provided plenty of evidence of the intent. Did they really think that when they talk Hebrew to their audience, rest of the world does not hear them.

Absolutely, I can not find the BBC or most other major news networks broadcasting and translating any of that.

I only see that on social media

Re: ICC issues warrants for Netanyahu, Gallant, and Hamas officials

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>In his first response to the ICC issuing a warrant for his arrest on allegations of war crimes, Benjamin Netanyahu’s office has described the ruling as “absurd and false lies” and said the decision is “antisemitic.” https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2024/nov/21/internati... If Netanyahu and Gallant really think they are innocent, and the allegations are absurd and false, they should cooperate with the ICC. Have…

Antisemitic. Every time I hear this word, I can’t help but think of its irony—a term used exclusively for describing discrimination against one community, as if prejudice against them carries more weight than against any other. Perhaps, though, it serves as the best reflection of our hypocrisy.

Re: ICC issues warrants for Netanyahu, Gallant, and Hamas officials

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I’m sorry but this brazenly wrong and a form of propaganda; you need to provide evidence for your claims. Hamas-employed Gaza police shoot at gangs that rob the aid containers with the implicit protection of Israel . Many videos have been posted spuriously claiming without any evidence that the individuals highjackimg the aid “are Hamas” when all documented evidence points to the very opposite. Just two days ago: Gan…

> you need to provide evidence for your claims There's tons of it, plenty of mainstream media reported it while it was happening. If you choose not to believe it, that's because of your biases and no amount of hard evidence will sway you. Also ask yourself, why has Egypt had a blockade against Gaza for longer than Israel?

Because they don't want Israel's prisoners to spill over into their country. Israel has controlled what can pass the border since 2007 or so.

Re: ICC issues warrants for Netanyahu, Gallant, and Hamas officials

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Not super meaningful in reality - any country looking to arrest either man should tread carefully. The American Service-Members' Protection Act authorizes the President of the United States to use "all means necessary and appropriate to bring about the release of any U.S. or allied personnel being detained or imprisoned by, on behalf of, or at the request of the International Criminal Court". Israel is listed in the…

The Netherlands said that they would arrest anybody accused. That would be peculiar to see, what would actually happen if anybody of the accused were to travel there.

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Re: ICC issues warrants for Netanyahu, Gallant, and Hamas officials

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This is textbook whataboutism. I live in the UK. I'm outraged by how much time/money is spent on Israel and Ukraine issues than our own. Similar to yourself, I have to wonder why UK govt chose to help one side with weapons in these specific conflicts. The difference here is of course, protestors are there on their own free will (for the most part, I guess?), whilst I don't have a say in how my tax money is being used…

I mean if anyone is yo blame for the Israel situation it's the UK.

Re: ICC issues warrants for Netanyahu, Gallant, and Hamas officials

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(before you jump into discussion, remember that this only about these two individuals) ICC and the prosecutor are on very solid ground here. The prosecutor asked opinions from a impartial panel of experts in international law. The panel included people like Theodor Meron (former Legal adviser for the Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs), Helene Kennedy, Adrian Fulford. Netanyahu and Yoav Gallant provided plenty of ev…

My question, though, is does pushing these kinds of toothless resolutions make any difference beyond showing that the ICC essentially has no power to enforce its warrants? It's clear that the most powerful militaries in the world (US, Russia, essentially China too) have declared the "rules-based world order" dead. Does it do anyone any good to pretend this hasn't happened? It reminded me of the post Elizabeth Warren…

> have declared the "rules-based world order" dead

I have hunker are confusing two things here - there is international law, which the US and other delinquents break regularly.

And there is Rules based world order, which is what US talks about and attempts to impose.

For example imposing sanctions on Russia does not have basis in international law, but is part of ‘rules based order’

Re: ICC issues warrants for Netanyahu, Gallant, and Hamas officials

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

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How do they enter now? An American journalist was jailed in Israel as well for a video showing the Iranian missiles struck near military targets and Mossad headquarters, where the official line was they were targeting civilians.

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