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Accordingly, they issued similar warrants for (what's left of) Hamas leadership on the same day.

https://www.icc-cpi.int/news/situation-state-palestine-icc-p...

> Or that most aid is going through Israel itself because Egypt still has a blockade against Gaza.

Israel very much prefers it that way. It's a very significant piece of leverage for them.

They signed a treaty in 2007 requiring Israeli authorization of anything crossing the Egyptian crossings, in fact. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rafah_Border_Crossing

Israeli occupied it in May, too. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-05-07/israel-ra...

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Yep, it was House Resolution 1449 if anyone is curious. Really scary times to see our freedoms eroded like this:

https://x.com/RepRashida/status/1859362185178439786

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Yugoslav president Slobodan Milosevic was arrested and deported by the government of Yugoslavia after him. Of course, under immense pressure from the west. My preference would be that we tried him under our courts and sent him to jail in Yugoslavia/Serbia. Now, imposing "justice" obviously only works when you do it to small nations like Yugoslavia or Rwanda. Of course it will not apply to the Israel leader, let alone…

I don't understand how a tiny country like Israel has become so important in global politics. By population Rwanda is ~30% larger than Israel.

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>In his first response to the ICC issuing a warrant for his arrest on allegations of war crimes, Benjamin Netanyahu’s office has described the ruling as “absurd and false lies” and said the decision is “antisemitic.” https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2024/nov/21/internati... If Netanyahu and Gallant really think they are innocent, and the allegations are absurd and false, they should cooperate with the ICC. Have…

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> they should cooperate with the ICC. Have your day in court and show how absurd the accusations are There's a reason why the US does not recognize the ICC.

Yes, because they want to operate outside the rule of international law.

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This is common and expected. Even when a serial killer suspected of 20 murder is apprehended, arrest is often made based on one or two confirmed cases, more charges are later added as investigation deepens. Also, keep in mind foreign journalists are completely banned by Israel from entering Gaza- complicating evidence gathering.

The Gaza ministry that would have counted the deaths was also destroyed several months ago, which is why news media have been reporting the same death total of 40,000 for several months.

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Well until they have proof of his death it stands to reason they should arrest him.

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They had chosen two others, but Israel killed them in the meantime. Who should they have chosen?

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You are assuming the court isn't a political thing that is trying to get him regardless of evidence. The court is at least partially political, and Netanyahu will tell you this is entirely political and he wouldn't get a fair trail.

Courts are political entities but this is one that Israel chose to accept and recognize the authority of. It has a history of being very transparent in its decisions and is widely recognized as being neutral and fair in their decision making process. Of course the person charged and found guilty of a crime will argue against the court. Disagreement, even if valid, doesn't change the recognized authority of this court…

> Courts are political entities but this is one that Israel chose to accept and recognize the authority of

As far as i am aware, this is a false statement. Israel has been opposed to the ICC since its inception (originally because the first version had a judge selection mechanism they thought was biased against them, although i am sure there are other reasons they object, especially relating to their settlements).

Perhaps you are confusing the ICC with the ICJ, which are totally different things.

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I don't understand how a tiny country like Israel has become so important in global politics. By population Rwanda is ~30% larger than Israel.

From my weak understanding, it’s the only ally the west (USA) has in the Middle East, so they’re important strategically - for military bases and other reasons I don’t really understand, and so are propped up by financial aid and weapons and other help (intelligence etc?) beyond what would normally happen to a similar country.

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I’m sorry but this brazenly wrong and a form of propaganda; you need to provide evidence for your claims. Hamas-employed Gaza police shoot at gangs that rob the aid containers with the implicit protection of Israel. Many videos have been posted spuriously claiming without any evidence that the individuals highjackimg the aid “are Hamas” when all documented evidence points to the very opposite.

Just two days ago: Gangs looting Gaza aid operate in areas under Israeli control, aid groups say

“Officials said criminal looting has become the greatest impediment to distributing aid in the southern half of Gaza, home to the vast majority of displaced Palestinians. Armed bands of men have killed, beaten and kidnapped aid truck drivers in the area around Israel’s Kerem Shalom crossing, the main entry point into Gaza’s south, aid workers and transport companies said. The thieves, who have run cigarette-smuggling operations throughout this year but are now also stealing food and other supplies, are tied to local crime families, residents say. The gangs are described by observers as rivals of Hamas and, in some cases, they have been targeted by remnants of Hamas’s security forces in other parts of the enclave.”

‘An internal United Nations memo obtained by The Washington Post concluded last month that the gangs “may be benefiting from a passive if not active benevolence” or “protection” from the Israel Defense Forces. One gang leader, the memo said, established a “military like compound” in an area “restricted, controlled and patrolled by the IDF.”’

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/11/18/gaza-looting...

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