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ICC issues warrants for Netanyahu, Gallant, and Hamas officials

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Post by ncr100 »

bawolff wrote: post #154

> The Chamber also noted that decisions allowing or increasing humanitarian assistance into Gaza were often conditional. They were not made to fulfil Israel’s obligations under international humanitarian law or to ensure that the civilian population in Gaza would be adequately supplied with goods in need. In fact, they were a response to the pressure of the international community or requests by the United States of…

The word intent is oftentimes used in The judicial system to measure culpability and punishment:

whether somebody accidentally stabbed a person 90 times or intentionally stabbed the person 90 times, for instance, is captured via the concept of intent.

Re: ICC issues warrants for Netanyahu, Gallant, and Hamas officials

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Post by alexisread »

threemux wrote: post #51

Not super meaningful in reality - any country looking to arrest either man should tread carefully. The American Service-Members' Protection Act authorizes the President of the United States to use "all means necessary and appropriate to bring about the release of any U.S. or allied personnel being detained or imprisoned by, on behalf of, or at the request of the International Criminal Court". Israel is listed in the…

The question here is why is only Israel covered in this act?

Also anti-BDS legislation in finance, regardless of ethical etc. concerns?

The US gives $4bn/year to Israel gratis, and so far $20bn in weapons over the course of this conflict, including advanced weapons like the F35 WITH source code access (which no other F35 partner has) - why?

There have been no investigations of US deaths WRT settler violence, aid workers killed etc. Normally with any US death it's a huge issue.

What does Israel do in return to make it such a favoured country? eg. 20bn in disaster relief aid to Florida would be probably more welcome by US citizens.

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Post by IncreasePosts »

flakeoil wrote: post #184
bbqfog wrote: post #153

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Indeed. That Israel has been allowed to operate outside the bounds of international law and human rights will be studied for generations.

They wave with the "antisemitic" flag and no-one dares to object in fear of being called antisemitic. Just see the mayor of Amsterdam.

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Post by highcountess »

peppers-ghost wrote: post #76
dankai wrote: post #45

"The Chamber therefore found reasonable grounds to believe that Mr Netanyahu and Mr Gallant bear criminal responsibility for the war crime of starvation as a method of warfare." Whats perhaps interesting to note is that this charge was made for "just" 41 [1] confirmed starvation deaths among a population of 2,141,643 people [2]. Of course every death caused by intentional starvation is a severe crime and must be puni…

"confirmed" data from Gaza at the moment is unreliable. The people who were doing the counting have either been killed or cleansed from the area. The official death toll is still around 40k despite the reality being closer to 100-200k.

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Post by School-Cotton »

h8dh8es8edh8 wrote: post #95
ComputerGuru wrote: post #33

Wow, this took a long time to come after the application for the warrants. 185 days compared to 23 days for Putin's arrest warrant — but then again, one was against the wishes of the USA and the west while the other was at their behest.

I wouldn't say "and the west" without more qualifications. The USA and Germany are solidly behind whatever the Israeli government does. England a bit less so and the rest of "the west" (however you want to define it) is more ambivalent. My point is that if only two countries (the USA and Germany) would make their support more conditional (conditional on the israeli government not commiting war crimes for example), th…

There is no sovereign state called "England"; you mean the UK.

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Post by defamation »

bbqfog wrote: post #146
bluGill wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You are assuming the court isn't a political thing that is trying to get him regardless of evidence. The court is at least partially political, and Netanyahu will tell you this is entirely political and he wouldn't get a fair trail.

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Post by locallost »

I doubt there will be actual arrests, but there will be and there are already consequences. I just saw France and Netherlands announced they will obey the warrants, thus Netanyahu can no longer travel there. Presumably the whole of EU is off limits (I am unaware which countries recognize the court).

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Post by immibis »

bbqfog wrote: post #114
tuvocoical wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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This is completely false. Gaza Health Ministry provides the most accurate data. You could also just go on X or TikTok and see dozens of Palestinians murdered by the IDF every single day.

Provided - past tense. When they were alive back in March. That ministry was destroyed by targeted missile attacks, same as the journalists.
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