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ICC issues warrants for Netanyahu, Gallant, and Hamas officials

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> Researchers at the Watson Institute for International and Public Affairs at Brown University estimated deaths from starvation to be 62,413 between October 2023 and September 2024.

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Re: ICC issues warrants for Netanyahu, Gallant, and Hamas officials

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"The Chamber therefore found reasonable grounds to believe that Mr Netanyahu and Mr Gallant bear criminal responsibility for the war crime of starvation as a method of warfare." Whats perhaps interesting to note is that this charge was made for "just" 41 [1] confirmed starvation deaths among a population of 2,141,643 people [2]. Of course every death caused by intentional starvation is a severe crime and must be puni…

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There are many signatories who are obliged to arrest anyone with an ICC warrant: https://asp.icc-cpi.int/states-parties

Obliged by who? The US can choose to wipe their ass with whatever they signed and arbitrarily say NO to a request they don't like. Who's gonna hold them accountable for breaking their signed agreement? Wasn't there the same pitfall with the League of Nations?

The US is not a signatory to the ICC. The US legal position is that the bilateral immunity agreements it has with many (mostly non-european) countries that are signatories to the ICC prevent those countries from being required to arrest US citizens accused of war crimes. I'm not aware of any legal theory in or agreements that lets the US directly block the arrest of non-us citizens in a foreign country so it would have to be the result of backroom pressure.

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How is this 'flagged'?

Users flagged it, as is common for the most divisive topics. I've turned the flags off now, in keeping with HN's standard practices: some (but only some) stories with political overlap are allowed, and in the case of a Major Ongoing Topic (MOT) we prefer the stories that contain Significant New Information (SNI). [1] https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&so... [2] https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange…

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As an effect though it does isolate these people. Countries may not want to host them lest they get in the middle of something.

Keep in mind these warrants don't expire either. The world might look different 10 years from now.

So i think these types of actions do have consequences even if they are not the same as a domestic court issuing the warrant

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> Researchers at the Watson Institute for International and Public Affairs at Brown University estimated deaths from starvation to be 62,413 between October 2023 and September 2024.

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If you’re looking for death estimates there are other sources. The Lancet estimated 160K (at least IIRC) a month or two ago.

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Yugoslav president Slobodan Milosevic was arrested and deported by the government of Yugoslavia after him. Of course, under immense pressure from the west. My preference would be that we tried him under our courts and sent him to jail in Yugoslavia/Serbia. Now, imposing "justice" obviously only works when you do it to small nations like Yugoslavia or Rwanda. Of course it will not apply to the Israel leader, let alone…

I don't understand how a tiny country like Israel has become so important in global politics. By population Rwanda is ~30% larger than Israel.

Given Israel is the motherland for many Jewish people, plus almost 2.5% of the USA is Jewish, plus there are almost 16 million Jewish people globally, I would imagine that.

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Given that the accused is currently in control of the crime scene, it's not surprising that the prosecution chose to prioritise the crimes that are easiest to prove.

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It's the ICC accusing Israel of war crimes.

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This is completely false. Gaza Health Ministry provides the most accurate data. You could also just go on X or TikTok and see dozens of Palestinians murdered by the IDF every single day.

>You could also just go on X or TikTok and see dozens of Palestinians murdered by the IDF every single day.

Just make sure to not bother yourself looking up sources of the images/videos, lest you find that a lot of that is from Syria.

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