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Between the Booms: AI in Winter – Communications of the ACM

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I paid money to Amazon for most of a decade before they had a profitable year.

You realize they had razor thing margins on purpose, right?

Of course.

Does that aspect differ from this other emerging market?

Re: Between the Booms: AI in Winter – Communications of the ACM

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> Artificial life fizzled as a meta discipline I've wondered for a while if Artificial Life is in its own winter, waiting for someone to apply the lessons of scale we learned from neural nets.

There was this AI civilization approach shared here a couple of weeks ago, that I think is an interesting move in this direction - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42035319

Re: Between the Booms: AI in Winter – Communications of the ACM

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every other article these days on this site is about AI. And it's incredibly tedious and annoying. Isn't it enough that clueless marketers who get their Tech knowledge from businessinsider and bloomberg are constantly harping on about AI. Seems we as a community have resigned or given up in this battle against common sense. Maybe long ago. Still there should be some form of moderation penalizing these shill posts tha…

Not just you. Clearly useful tools coming out of this AI crazy, but a LOT of fluff.

Outside of pure tech companies, there's a lot of "Head of AI" hiring by CTOs to show "we are doing AI" regardless of if they have found any application for it yet.

I've also seen a lot of product pivots to AI where they don't really have a need or explanation for the use case that AI helps with.

Further I've seen a number of orgs that were laggards in their internal technology become incredibly distracted thinking AI will solve for them not having even a proper rudimentary 2010s class IT org.

I think the comedown from this will be worse than crypto as while there will be more real use cases, there is far more hype based "we have to do something" adoption that hasn't found a use yet. A lot of orgs that remained weary of crypto got fully on the AI bandwagon. Investment must be an order of magnitude more.

Re: Between the Booms: AI in Winter – Communications of the ACM

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> Artificial life fizzled as a meta discipline I've wondered for a while if Artificial Life is in its own winter, waiting for someone to apply the lessons of scale we learned from neural nets.

If you want to follow someone playing with this, there's Steve Grand, who wrote the original creatures game and kickstarted something a bit more ambitious https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1508284443/grandroids-r...

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Personal anecdotes on the benefits of using LLMs don't address complaints about tedious articles over-marketing AI tech. That LLMs provide benefits is well known at this point, it doesn't mean we can't recognize the latest hype cycle for what it is. There's a long list of previous technologies that were going to "change everything".

surely it's not hype if it works?

No, hype is an over-presence and/or over-representation of the benefits. Just because there's a hint of truth to the sentiment does not mean there is no hype.

Re: Between the Booms: AI in Winter – Communications of the ACM

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every other article these days on this site is about AI. And it's incredibly tedious and annoying. Isn't it enough that clueless marketers who get their Tech knowledge from businessinsider and bloomberg are constantly harping on about AI. Seems we as a community have resigned or given up in this battle against common sense. Maybe long ago. Still there should be some form of moderation penalizing these shill posts tha…

>every other article

On a quick count it seems to be more like 1/10. Maybe just ignore them and read something else?

I'm interested in the AI stuff personally.

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