Between the Booms: AI in Winter – Communications of the ACM
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Re: Between the Booms: AI in Winter – Communications of the ACM
#2every other article these days on this site is about AI. And it's incredibly tedious and annoying.
Isn't it enough that clueless marketers who get their Tech knowledge from businessinsider and bloomberg are constantly harping on about AI.
Seems we as a community have resigned or given up in this battle against common sense. Maybe long ago. Still there should be some form of moderation penalizing these shill posts that only glorify AI as being the future, ... the same way that not everything about crypto or the blockchain ended up on the FP. Seems with AI we're looking the other way and are OK with it?
Or maybe it's me.
Re: Between the Booms: AI in Winter – Communications of the ACM
#3every other article these days on this site is about AI. And it's incredibly tedious and annoying. Isn't it enough that clueless marketers who get their Tech knowledge from businessinsider and bloomberg are constantly harping on about AI. Seems we as a community have resigned or given up in this battle against common sense. Maybe long ago. Still there should be some form of moderation penalizing these shill posts tha…
Nah, it’s not just you.
AI is really neat. I don’t understand how a business model that makes money pops out on the other end.
At least crypto cashed out on NFTs for a while.
Re: Between the Booms: AI in Winter – Communications of the ACM
#4every other article these days on this site is about AI. And it's incredibly tedious and annoying. Isn't it enough that clueless marketers who get their Tech knowledge from businessinsider and bloomberg are constantly harping on about AI. Seems we as a community have resigned or given up in this battle against common sense. Maybe long ago. Still there should be some form of moderation penalizing these shill posts tha…
Nah, it’s not just you. AI is really neat. I don’t understand how a business model that makes money pops out on the other end. At least crypto cashed out on NFTs for a while.
> I don’t understand how a business model that makes money pops out on the other end
Tractors and farming.
By turning what is traditionally a labour intensive product into a capital intensive one.
For now, the farmers who own tractors will beat the farmers who need to hire, house and retain workers (or half a dozen children).
This goes well for quite some time, where you can have 3 people handle acres & acres.
I'll be around explaining how coffee beans can't be picked by a tractor or how vanilla can't be pollinated with it.
Re: Between the Booms: AI in Winter – Communications of the ACM
#5every other article these days on this site is about AI. And it's incredibly tedious and annoying. Isn't it enough that clueless marketers who get their Tech knowledge from businessinsider and bloomberg are constantly harping on about AI. Seems we as a community have resigned or given up in this battle against common sense. Maybe long ago. Still there should be some form of moderation penalizing these shill posts tha…
Nah, it’s not just you. AI is really neat. I don’t understand how a business model that makes money pops out on the other end. At least crypto cashed out on NFTs for a while.
Crypto is coming back for another heist. Will probably die a bit once Trump finishes his term
Re: Between the Booms: AI in Winter – Communications of the ACM
#6every other article these days on this site is about AI. And it's incredibly tedious and annoying. Isn't it enough that clueless marketers who get their Tech knowledge from businessinsider and bloomberg are constantly harping on about AI. Seems we as a community have resigned or given up in this battle against common sense. Maybe long ago. Still there should be some form of moderation penalizing these shill posts tha…
It's a CACM article. Without having read this one, I'd say CACM articles on HN are absolutely appropriate.
Re: Between the Booms: AI in Winter – Communications of the ACM
#7> Artificial life fizzled as a meta discipline
I've wondered for a while if Artificial Life is in its own winter, waiting for someone to apply the lessons of scale we learned from neural nets.
Re: Between the Booms: AI in Winter – Communications of the ACM
#8every other article these days on this site is about AI. And it's incredibly tedious and annoying. Isn't it enough that clueless marketers who get their Tech knowledge from businessinsider and bloomberg are constantly harping on about AI. Seems we as a community have resigned or given up in this battle against common sense. Maybe long ago. Still there should be some form of moderation penalizing these shill posts tha…
Nah, it’s not just you. AI is really neat. I don’t understand how a business model that makes money pops out on the other end. At least crypto cashed out on NFTs for a while.
good point about the business model. probably AI has more even the ones reaping the rewards are only 4 or 5 big corps.
It seems with crypto the business "benefits" were mostly adversarial (winners were those doing crimes on the darknet, or to allow ransomware operators to get paid). The underlying blockchain Tech itself though failed to replace transactions in a database.
The main value for AI today seems to be generative Tech to improve the quality of Deepfakes or to help everyone in Business write their communication with an even more "neutral" non-human like voice, free of any emotion, almost psychopathic. Like the dudes who are writing about their achievements on LinkedIn in 3rd person, ... Only now it's psychopathy enabled by the machine.
Also I've seen people who, without AI are barely literate, are now sending emails that look like they've been penned by a post-doc in English literature. The result is it's becoming a lot harder to separate the morons, and knuckle-draggers from those who are worth reaching out and talking to.
yes old man yelling at cloud.
Re: Between the Booms: AI in Winter – Communications of the ACM
#9every other article these days on this site is about AI. And it's incredibly tedious and annoying. Isn't it enough that clueless marketers who get their Tech knowledge from businessinsider and bloomberg are constantly harping on about AI. Seems we as a community have resigned or given up in this battle against common sense. Maybe long ago. Still there should be some form of moderation penalizing these shill posts tha…
It's you.
The AI discussions can indeed be repetitive and tiresome here, especially for regulars, but they already seem to be downweighted and clear off the front page quite fast.
But it's a major focus of the industry right now, involving a genuinely novel and promising new class of tools, so the posts belong here and the high engagement that props them up seems expected.
Re: Between the Booms: AI in Winter – Communications of the ACM
#10Earlier quoted context omitted.
Nah, it’s not just you. AI is really neat. I don’t understand how a business model that makes money pops out on the other end. At least crypto cashed out on NFTs for a while.
> I don’t understand how a business model that makes money pops out on the other end Tractors and farming. By turning what is traditionally a labour intensive product into a capital intensive one. For now, the farmers who own tractors will beat the farmers who need to hire, house and retain workers (or half a dozen children). This goes well for quite some time, where you can have 3 people handle acres & acres. I'll b…
And I'll be around explaining why it's a bad idea to stockpile $X00,000,000 worth of Equipment in Columbia, where coffee grows readily.
Capital intensive industries require low crime and geopolitical stability. Strongman politics means that investors who buy such equipment will simply be robbed at literal gunpoint by local gangs.