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DOJ filed paperwork to US District Court to force Google to spin off Chrome [pdf]

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Re: DOJ filed paperwork to US District Court to force Google to spin off Chrome [pdf]

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Chrome currently has far more paid full time engineers than the linux kernel does. I struggle to see how they get paid - except again, by charging search engines to be the default browser or something.

Google can keep engineers working on Chrome employed without having control over Chrome.

But why would they if they're forbidden from getting any benefit from Chrome?

Re: DOJ filed paperwork to US District Court to force Google to spin off Chrome [pdf]

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Google's response: "DOJ’s staggering proposal would hurt consumers and America’s global technological leadership" https://blog.google/outreach-initiatives/public-policy/doj-s...

I wholeheartedly agree. What the hell is the DOJ thinking?

Re: DOJ filed paperwork to US District Court to force Google to spin off Chrome [pdf]

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Chrome is not the problem. Chrome is not even a symptom. The problem is that the world's largest search engine is also the world's largest ad distributor. Chopping off tentacles like Android or Chrome does nothing to slay the two-headed beast.

Why would I want to slay one of our greatest technological companies?

Re: DOJ filed paperwork to US District Court to force Google to spin off Chrome [pdf]

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Google can keep engineers working on Chrome employed without having control over Chrome.

But why would they if they're forbidden from getting any benefit from Chrome?

Why does everyone contribute to Linux?

Re: DOJ filed paperwork to US District Court to force Google to spin off Chrome [pdf]

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It's all part of an ecosystem. Chrome is a vehicle in which users are roped into their search engine and ads. And their search engine and ads also push users into Chrome. It's all cyclical. Breaking off any chunk weakens the link between them and locks users into their ecosystem less. Rome wasn't built in a day, and monopolies aren't destroyed in one either.

Apple's VP literally said that no amount of money would make them choose Bing over Google because Google is the best search engine... Lets be real, no one needs to be "roped into" using Google search. People have Bing and Edge shoved down their throats and still use Chrome and Google...

A company that operates a monopoly having massive advantages against competitors isn't the argument you think it is. Courts in every developed country on earth see your statement and say "That's precisely why we're breaking this company up."

Every single time a monopoly forms, people say "It's not a monopoly. They're just better than the others and nobody wants the competition." They never realize that's the textbook example of a monopoly.

Re: DOJ filed paperwork to US District Court to force Google to spin off Chrome [pdf]

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The most likely answer is that it will take the Linux model, with a foundation put together to fund Chrome's development. Then all of the parties interested in people having access to the Web, including Google, will have an incentive to fund this without requiring it to push their specific products.

Chrome currently has far more paid full time engineers than the linux kernel does. I struggle to see how they get paid - except again, by charging search engines to be the default browser or something.

Chrome does a lot of things. I know there are downsides and many people don't agree, but I think overall the browser/internet experience would benefit from simpler browsers that don't move so fast.

Re: DOJ filed paperwork to US District Court to force Google to spin off Chrome [pdf]

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The US constitution would allow him to "run" ( usually it's coast ) as Vice President to the next POTUS .. and that would also allow him one day less than two years as POTUS should the VP be required to take over for the sitting President. Realistically Trump most likely lacks any interest once his various and sundry pending felony and other charges have been quashed or voided by immunity grants, etc.

Does this mean he wouldn't have run this time if it weren't for his legal troubles?

I can't say for certain, I'm Australian and don't work with the US political admin (ie no inside line) but there's certainly been US insiders that have strongly hinted dodging massive mounting legal trouble was a major motivation for Trump to run again.

To be clear they may have been deadly serious, seriously joking, or both at the same time .. it's just that good a fit as a theory.

Re: DOJ filed paperwork to US District Court to force Google to spin off Chrome [pdf]

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Google's response: "DOJ’s staggering proposal would hurt consumers and America’s global technological leadership" https://blog.google/outreach-initiatives/public-policy/doj-s...

Of course these are things they'll say publicly. And they'll point out all the bad results and none of the good ones. None of what they wrote should be surprising, but also it's not particularly novel/interesting. (Also they're framing a few good things as if they're bad for the users...)

Re: DOJ filed paperwork to US District Court to force Google to spin off Chrome [pdf]

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The US constitution would allow him to "run" ( usually it's coast ) as Vice President to the next POTUS .. and that would also allow him one day less than two years as POTUS should the VP be required to take over for the sitting President. Realistically Trump most likely lacks any interest once his various and sundry pending felony and other charges have been quashed or voided by immunity grants, etc.

Does this mean he wouldn't have run this time if it weren't for his legal troubles?

Many people are saying.
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