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Google Service Drops Support for Opera

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Re: Google Service Drops Support for Opera

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Their mobile browser accounts for 20%+ of all mobile traffic, which together with their desktop browser usage is about 300,000,000 active users (that's the population of the entire United States). So it would make sense for Google to support them.

Mobile Opera is a completely different browser and not relevant to the Blogger admin issue at all.

Opera Mobile uses the very same Presto rendering engine as the desktop version.

Re: Google Service Drops Support for Opera

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>You're joking, I hope? No. No im not. >Of course Google has the resources. It's one of the biggest companies in tech. I didn't say they lacked the resources, I said it wouldn't be fiscally prudent. They are not purposively preventing opera from working, they are just not fixing bugs that only show up in Opera. >But it has very high market share in a few countries in Europe. Not supporting Opera is basically saying t…

How much - in actual dollars - do you think it costs them to support Opera, the most standards-compliant browser of them all?

Not a clue. However every minute spent fixing an issue for a browser with 1% or less usage is a minute not spent making it better for the 99%

Re: Google Service Drops Support for Opera

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Browsers are a "winner take most" market because of website support and extensions. IE and chrome have rich parents, and firefox had much better extension community.

I doubt the extensions have much to do with it. Where Firefox had a vibrant community of people making extensions for their favourite website's search box, Opera added a way to access any site's search box from the address bar. This is just an example - a lot of things that Firefox extensions have been most used for are natively supported in Opera, though typically in a very different way. I don't think anybody but a…

This.

Opera has left a huge legacy of features that people take for granted nowadays: very low use of resources; using the URL box also as a search tool; editable search engines; tab and window sessions; savable sessions; more that I can't remember now. All these were invented at Opera and later picked up by the others.

Ten or fifteen years ago, Opera was the browser for hackers and the smart technologically-aware user. Then they sort of lost their way a bit. I switched away when Opera's resource use became as hungry as the others. Darn all these useless gimcracks and prettiness, I want speed, something I'm still saying today (which shows I'm as out-of-touch as ever I was).

Re: Google Service Drops Support for Opera

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How much - in actual dollars - do you think it costs them to support Opera, the most standards-compliant browser of them all?

Not a clue. However every minute spent fixing an issue for a browser with 1% or less usage is a minute not spent making it better for the 99%

Even 1% being tens of millions of users, and when there is a clear conflict of interest here (Google having a product competing with Opera), and the relatively very small amount of work needed to make it work on Opera - not to mention the bad publicity here?

Re: Google Service Drops Support for Opera

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Not a clue. However every minute spent fixing an issue for a browser with 1% or less usage is a minute not spent making it better for the 99%

Even 1% being tens of millions of users, and when there is a clear conflict of interest here (Google having a product competing with Opera), and the relatively very small amount of work needed to make it work on Opera - not to mention the bad publicity here?

If 1% ~= 10 million then that means their user base is nearly 1 billion, which clearly isn't true. There are not 1 billion people with a blogger blog.

There is no conflict of interest. They are not severing opera completely. just off of one section of one part of one of their services - one that is probably one of the lesser used ones at that.

Not to mention, they are not going to make it not work in Opera, they are just not going to fix opera specific bugs. that means that if they stick to the standards like they normally do, then this really shouldn't be that big of a problem, outside of esthetics.

I think this is the sum total of bad publicity. Honestly, Opera's biggest issue has been a lack of advocacy.

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