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Google Service Drops Support for Opera

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Re: Google Service Drops Support for Opera

#51
I didn't use Wave because it didn't work in Opera, and apparently I chose correctly.

My assumption is that the Blogger service is faced with cutting costs, and dropping non-mainstream browsers makes sense in that context. So, at the moment I see this as a negative indicator for Blogger, not for Opera.

Wake me when Gmail or Voice officially drops support.

Re: Google Service Drops Support for Opera

#52

This whole "supporting browsers" thing should be gone, and very soon. There are specifications that browser makers should follow, and if they are all supporting those specifications, then they well be well-supported. The only differentiator between page rendering among browsers should really be speed. (I believe Opera is actually one of the browsers that adheres most closely to the specs.)

Adhering to the specs used to be top priority, until the idea that actually making the Internet work got critical mass internally. The problem was that you don't get a lot of users if all you do is point the finger at the other browsers, you have to actually show the pages that people have created.

Now they even have features like Browserjs for automatically fixing web pages to work in Opera: http://www.opera.com/docs/browserjs/ You don't even need to upgrade Opera!

Quite clever. It's even open source: https://github.com/operasoftware/browserjs/

Re: Google Service Drops Support for Opera

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Agreed. I don't get why people like it so much. Something must be wrong with it to only have so few users -- it has been around for more than two years now, I think.

Nothing is wrong with Opera. It's not missing any major features. In fact it is competitive with the major web browsers https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_web_browsers including HTML5 support, accessibility, security, and speed. Many of the features that other browsers need extensions for (like image blocking, tab management, or "new tab" pages) are installed by default.

Then why does it have so few users?

Re: Google Service Drops Support for Opera

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Agreed. I don't get why people like it so much. Something must be wrong with it to only have so few users -- it has been around for more than two years now, I think.

I'm not sure if this is a joke or not. Opera has been around for over fifteen years -- longer than Firefox, Safari, or Chrome. It's been around as long as Internet Explorer. But their main revenue source is mobile, where they have been the #1 browser vendor for a long time. Opera accounts for over 20% of mobile browser page views worldwide. The desktop market is less of a focus for Opera than for other vendors. Even…

I am still technically correct as 15 is more than 2.

But that still leaves the question, why hasn't it been picked up?

Re: Google Service Drops Support for Opera

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I'm not sure if this is a joke or not. Opera has been around for over fifteen years -- longer than Firefox, Safari, or Chrome. It's been around as long as Internet Explorer. But their main revenue source is mobile, where they have been the #1 browser vendor for a long time. Opera accounts for over 20% of mobile browser page views worldwide. The desktop market is less of a focus for Opera than for other vendors. Even…

I am still technically correct as 15 is more than 2. But that still leaves the question, why hasn't it been picked up?

Because it's neither bundled with any operating system (like IE or Safari) nor can they afford to do a lot of advertising (like Chrome).

Firefox got popular because many sites advertised it as a 'better browser than IE' for free, I guess.

Re: Google Service Drops Support for Opera

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> Even though Google is a major corporation, I doubt they can afford to spend the time fixing issues in a browser that gets lower single digit uses. You're joking, I hope? Of course Google has the resources. It's one of the biggest companies in tech. Not only does Google have the money to do it, but it really looks bad by not supporting Opera and telling people to use Chrome. Just to prevent that bad publicity it wou…

Didn't Google give up on IE6 for some of their services when it had less than 20% market share? Opera has 1-2% market share. Granted, it should be a lot easier to tweak their code for Opera, but the difference in market share is pretty big, too.

>Granted, it should be a lot easier to tweak their code for Opera

In fact, most things would just work in Opera as they do in the other browser if there weren't any Opera-specific sniffing code in place locking Opera out.

Re: Google Service Drops Support for Opera

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Why would something like the administration pages for Google Blogger need CSS 3D transforms?

They wouldn't, this is a personal gripe. (although I guess they might use it for transitions?)

Nah, just the low market share.

And personal gripe.

Re: Google Service Drops Support for Opera

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Nothing is wrong with Opera. It's not missing any major features. In fact it is competitive with the major web browsers https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_web_browsers including HTML5 support, accessibility, security, and speed. Many of the features that other browsers need extensions for (like image blocking, tab management, or "new tab" pages) are installed by default.

Then why does it have so few users?

Browsers are a "winner take most" market because of website support and extensions. IE and chrome have rich parents, and firefox had much better extension community.

Re: Google Service Drops Support for Opera

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I'm not sure if this is a joke or not. Opera has been around for over fifteen years -- longer than Firefox, Safari, or Chrome. It's been around as long as Internet Explorer. But their main revenue source is mobile, where they have been the #1 browser vendor for a long time. Opera accounts for over 20% of mobile browser page views worldwide. The desktop market is less of a focus for Opera than for other vendors. Even…

I am still technically correct as 15 is more than 2. But that still leaves the question, why hasn't it been picked up?

I tried to explain that above. Opera's revenue, and therefore their development and marketing and sales strategy, is primarily in the mobile market, where it has been "picked up" quite successfully. They haven't focused as much on competing for usage share in the desktop browser market. (And even so, 2% of all computer users in the world is not exactly a failure; it's a very large number!)

It's like a mirror image of Firefox , which focused almost exclusively (and successfully) on the desktop, but has not been picked up on mobile because it has not focused as much on development or strategy there.

Re: Google Service Drops Support for Opera

#60

google is frankly starting to enrage me, they are seeming to become more and more a company with only one obvious goal - own the internet. They have made some good products ( the chrome developer tools are great ), but I'm sick of them just blowing over anyone or anything that stands in their seeming quest towards a complete monopoly ( the google books settlement is a good example ). What happen to the good ol days w…

Don't be evil eh? ;)
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