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They've said about thirty things are red lines and then not done much.
Dogs bark before they bite.
dogs also bark before they bark some more, even if they're never going to bite
Biden Allows Ukraine to Strike Russia with Long-Range U.S. Missiles
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So we all blow ourselves up and kill everybody? † To own Russia? †: everybody == a lot of people, just to be clear
> To own Russia? That's not the goal. It's for security: It's less risky now to fight Russia then later, after they've conquered more people and territory, and have political momentum. It's for security again: If Russia wins, it greatly damages the international order which has prevented wide-scale war for generations. Remember the world before 1945. It's for people: The lives, freedom, rights, and prosperity of tens…
> It's for security: It's less risky now to fight Russia then later, after they've conquered more people and territory, and have political momentum.
This is a fair and logical point.
> It's for security again: If Russia wins, it greatly damages the international order which has prevented wide-scale war for generations. Remember the world before 1945.
That very international order hinges on the US being the sole dominator of the entire world. Sooner or later that sort of international order has to crack.
> The lives, freedom, rights, and prosperity of tens of millions of people are at stake.
Pax Americana is paid for (in blood, natural resources, political sovereignty and the fate of every single future generation) by hundreds of millions of people, though outside of the "western, civilized" world. You still consider it some righteous cause? Sounds kind of selfish.
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I don’t know what media you consumed, but the media I read indicated the race could go either way, and that a 300+ EV tally for either candidate was possible. It’s literally impossible to have been “wrong”.
Bit of “media literacy” for you: The media you read does not exist to inform you. Trump’s lead would have had to have been overwhelming for published polls to indicate that he would win.
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Would you mind letting us know which country you're from? If Russia invaded your country, claimed part of your land, how far would you let them go, just to preserve peace? Is there a cut-off point for you, or none at all?
I'd probably let them take the 60%+ Russian speaking parts where I had been persecuting their countrymen and then maybe sue for peace or something along those lines.
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Genocidal Russians? Russia hosts the largest Ukrainian refugee population.
Russia hosts the largest Ukrainian refugee population. Absolutely false - Russia has about 1.7 million, other countries some 6 million. Whatever source you got that verbal snippet from is messing with your head.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1312584/ukrainian-refuge...
Russia #1
Germany #2
Poland #3
I dont know if you guys are just trolling, genuinely braindead retards or official astroturfers from the 3 letter soups
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dogs also bark before they bark some more, even if they're never going to bite
The threat of some dogs going beyond barking is enough to warrant caution.
It is not enough to warrant giving the barking dog what it demands from others and it does not deserve, as that will teach it that such barking is okay.
In any case, it is a much weaker dog than you, and the dog has fewer functioning nuclear weapons and delivery systems. Ultimately the dog won't bite with nuclear weapons because it knows you bite harder and it will lose.
Come to think of it, such an aggressive dog which repeatedly barks and attacks its own neighbors unprovoked is a threat to the community and should be put down.
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Russia hosts the largest Ukrainian refugee population. Absolutely false - Russia has about 1.7 million, other countries some 6 million. Whatever source you got that verbal snippet from is messing with your head.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1312584/ukrainian-refuge... Russia #1 Germany #2 Poland #3 I dont know if you guys are just trolling, genuinely braindead retards or official astroturfers from the 3 letter soups
No, there's just so much propaganda-addled thinking floating about here that it's frankly exhausting to wade through, and as a result, I sometimes misread people.
The vastly bigger point is -- there's plainly no logic to the the primary implication you are attempting to posit here. Which, with only light paraphrasing, boils down to this:
"Russia hosts a large population of refugees from Ukraine; these of course being largely from the Russian-speaking population, which the Russian regime considers to be its own people. From this fact, therefore, Russian regime can't possibly be in the business of committing ethnic cleansing or other genocidal actions against the actual Ukrainian-speaking population of Ukraine."