Isn't text-to-speech very expensive?
Last time I checked, Eleven Labs, the most natural-sounding TTS provider, were charging insane amounts per token.
Wasting so much on scammers sounds unsustainable and just silly.
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#222I wish they would have a number I can cal to speak to her. That would be fun
I could try to walk it through fixing its network settings in Windows 98. Really re-live my telecom tech support days.
I could relive my teenage years where my grand dad would call up 2 x per week so I could help him set the clock on his microwave.
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#223If you use a VoIP service like Twilio and voip.ms, you can set up a very simple IVR menu that just asks unknown callers to press 1 to be connected to you. No AI involved. For me, this has been surprisingly effective against robocalls. Obviously this isn’t going to work against scammers who call directly, but most of the spam calls I receive start with some pre-recorded message which isn’t going to pass the menu. Edit…
My Pixel 8 (not sure what other Android phones do this) can screen calls using their AI assistant. It asks what the call is about. If they answer, it displays the text to you as it rings through. It sounds surprisingly human-like, even saying "Hello?" in a slightly annoyed tone when the other person doesn't respond in time.
I wish it was available on my pixel, but only in US I guess.
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#225If this is just a PR stunt, imagine what they're cooking up behind the scenes: AI reps to answer actual customer calls. No more paying a horde of $10/hr meat slaves in some call center! You know some execs creamed themselves over this already.
Have you been to an AI drive through yet?
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Is it though? Like it might be valuable to you, but i doubt its valuable to anyone else in a phone call situation and both parties need to find value to make a sale. Like if you are interested in the convo then you should be paying the other person as you are getting value from the convo. What's the situation where you don't care about the convo but for the right price you could care, and the other party also thinks…
> What's the situation where you don't care about the convo but for the right price you could care, and the other party also thinks that price is reasonable? Minimally targeted advertising.
Why would the other party think the price would be reasonable? Like the entire point of minimally targeted ads is to spray and prey.
Like if you assume a CPM of $2, that means $0.002 per phone call. Would you really find that acceptable?
If the answer is no, then you aren't really accepting payment,you are just blocking people with extra steps. No different than if you said you will accept a phone call for a billion dollars. You aren't really accepting something for payment if you set a price that nobody will pay.
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#228The scam and spam call problem is really bad in Germany to this day. And has been for 10 years. A couple years ago I would sit at my desk thinking about a really hard problem in silence. The phone rings. Spam call. Every 30-180 minutes another one. If you now think turn the phone off, well not that easy as CEO of a business when people expect you to be reachable. It creamed my corn so much that I recorded my own voic…
The only spam I have received with my mobile phone in Germany was the network operator asking me for permission to spam me with ads.
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You sound like an advocate for telemarketers. Am I correct? I doubt very seriously that the pool of people who have knowingly and intentionally and explicitly opted in/consented to telemarketing - that is, without any dark pattern involvement and with a clear and unmbiguous consent experience, is very large. In fact I think it is infinitesimal because I can’t recall seeing such a consent UX- they ALL involve dark pat…
I’m not OP, but my worry is about the false positives. I have real inbound calls and emails getting detected as spam all the time. Luckily my VoIP provider has a spam box I can look in, but at this point I just have to go through them every so often to make sure I’m not missing anything important. If the telecoms can perfectly predict the telemarketers, then I’d love it. But in practice how often is this going to blo…
Exactly. Many people want to be able to receive phone calls from their doctors, airlines and schools. These types of B2C calls are presumably most likely to be marked as spam in the event of false positives.
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VM? Virtual machine?
Wow the HN crowd is younger than I thought. Voicemail
Dunno about the US, but where I live (Czechia, in Europe), voicemail is simply not a thing. I've never used it in my life and I don't know anyone who's ever used it, young or old.