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Re: The Impact of Jungle Music in 90s Video Game Development

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Post by CuriouslyC »

helboi4 wrote: post #243
CuriouslyC wrote: post #94

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I'm interested in a lot of subculture music, and it really isn't there like it was for the most part. Most families of music seem to have stagnated or regressed. The early 90s gangster rap is definitely superior to mumble rap/emo rap, the 90s IDM/jungle/trance is superior to modern EDM/house/trap and the pop mainstream now is just garbage compared to the the mainstream from the late 80s/90s. Mixing and production are…

Tell me you're out of the loop without telling me you're out of the loop. As someone in my mid 20s, techno music is booming and it has zero EDM/house/trap influences. Everyone my age thinks EDM is cringe, it was a trend of 10 years ago. Go to actually underground sound clubs if you know where they are. I'm guessing you don't, because you're showing how ignorant you are of the scene. Some recently released tracks I pi…

I was listening to minimal techno before you were born friend (check out drumcode/derrick may). I go to festivals and you will never hear it.

Re: The Impact of Jungle Music in 90s Video Game Development

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Post by helboi4 »

CuriouslyC wrote: post #271
helboi4 wrote: post #243

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tell me you're out of the loop without telling me you're out of the loop. As someone in my mid 20s, techno music is booming and it has zero EDM/house/trap influences. Everyone my age thinks EDM is cringe, it was a trend of 10 years ago. Go to actually underground sound clubs if you know where they are. I'm guessing you don't, because you're showing how ignorant you are of the scene. Some recently released tracks I pi…

I was listening to minimal techno before you were born friend (check out drumcode/derrick may). I go to festivals and you will never hear it.

Bro talks to me like I don't know what Drumcode is. The biggest titan in techno music to the point that people literally call it "business techno" because it's so oversaturated. Yeah I know drumcode. I know who Derrick May is, I don't know what sort of thumb-sucking 14 year old you think you're talking to. Derrick May is not by any stretch of the imagination a purely minimal techno artist. He literally made Strings of Life which is one of the least fucking minimal things I've ever heard.

You're right, minimal techno is not the most popular form of techno right now. That's not a new thing that happened in this decade though. Techno has been going through trends of being faster and more maximalist vs slower and minimalist since it began. I'm sorry that you're struggling to find minimal techno nights to your liking, I'm sure there are some out there and I'm sure the trend will come back around. But the techno of my generation is not all EDM or trap influenced so I know you're talking out your ass. You may have been to many techno events in your life, but what you're saying here just proves you're out of the loop like many nostalgic oldheads. So maybe just take a step back and consider that you may have lost touch with the underground. You certainly have if you think drumcode is an underground reference these days.

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Post by miek »

Buttons840 wrote: post #60

I've recently been into game development, and I needed music which lead me to discovering synthesizers--I was hooked the first time I saw so many buttons, knobs, and flashing lights--and now I've gone off on a huge tangent and am studying music theory instead of making my game. Oh well, it's all for fun. Does HN have any advice on how to get started with synthesizers, with an eye towards creating a game soundtrack?

Hardware synth route: Korg Minilogue XD is a great box that you'll likely keep forever. For a less traditional but fun experience, Arturia Microfreak or for more $, the Minifreak (which comes with a Minifreak VST!). To save money, see what's available second-hand locally and Google each to see if it's beginner friendly.

Software route: Get a midi controller with plenty of knobs and buttons that is supported for easy use by whatever DAW you want (digital audio workstation). By easy use, I mean that there is a config available within the DAW that will map the controller's buttons/knobs etc.to functions within the DAW. Examples: Push 3 or Launchkey keyboards for Abelton, Komplete Kontrol, etc.

If you want a lighter synth that is paired with a sequencer, drum machine, and effects all-in-one hardware box, for fun on the go or on your couch, you want a groovebox. I like the Novation Circuit Tracks, which has a serious synth under the hood, accessible by PC or a midi controller (Novation Launch Control XL is plug-n-play friendly if you download an addon from their website).

Re: The Impact of Jungle Music in 90s Video Game Development

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Post by CuriouslyC »

helboi4 wrote: post #272
CuriouslyC wrote: post #271

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was listening to minimal techno before you were born friend (check out drumcode/derrick may). I go to festivals and you will never hear it.

Bro talks to me like I don't know what Drumcode is. The biggest titan in techno music to the point that people literally call it "business techno" because it's so oversaturated. Yeah I know drumcode. I know who Derrick May is, I don't know what sort of thumb-sucking 14 year old you think you're talking to. Derrick May is not by any stretch of the imagination a purely minimal techno artist. He literally made Strings o…

I can tell you're an angry person. You should try punching a bag instead of raging at people online.

If I have to go to a club in new york or berlin to hear music it's not culturally relevant. The stuff you linked gets zero play at festivals.

Re: The Impact of Jungle Music in 90s Video Game Development

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Post by helboi4 »

CuriouslyC wrote: post #267
helboi4 wrote: post #249

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Fr. Don't know why you're getting downvoted. The bitter people in this comment section who think electronic music died in the 90s clearly wouldn't know a good club if it slapped them in the face and it shows.

I go to burns/festivals, that's what's typically on offer, don't blame me for society's lack of taste. I enjoy Berlin minimal techno but it's not exactly popular.

Again. Going to a festival does not mean you're going to a good one. Most of the best music happens in clubs in the underground circuit anyway not at "burns", which sounds like the most gentrified, millenial techbro yuppie garbage I've ever heard and I'm unsurprised you're not finding the bleeding edge of underground rave music there.

The key word is GOOD. Not that you just go places bro. You're clearly unsatisfied with the music you're hearing at these events. SO FIND BETTER ONES.

Re: The Impact of Jungle Music in 90s Video Game Development

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Post by helboi4 »

CuriouslyC wrote: post #274
helboi4 wrote: post #272

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Bro talks to me like I don't know what Drumcode is. The biggest titan in techno music to the point that people literally call it "business techno" because it's so oversaturated. Yeah I know drumcode. I know who Derrick May is, I don't know what sort of thumb-sucking 14 year old you think you're talking to. Derrick May is not by any stretch of the imagination a purely minimal techno artist. He literally made Strings o…

I can tell you're an angry person. You should try punching a bag instead of raging at people online. If I have to go to a club in new york or berlin to hear music it's not culturally relevant. The stuff you linked gets zero play at festivals.

When you're condescending and make bad faith arguments, people will find you frustrating. I'm not sure why you want to emulate your grandparents by dismissing younger people's creativity just like they did to you. Open your mind a bit and try not to become the people you hated.

Edit: Festivals have never been the beating heart of the techno scene my friend. I'm sorry to break it to you. And again, I've been to good festivals which do play this stuff - you clearly don't know where to go and you're taking it out on my generation when its on YOU.

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Post by miek »

magicalhippo wrote: post #54

I recall the Wipeout 2097 soundtrack[1] blew me away as a kid. I had heard some techno and eurodance was popular at the time, but the sounds coming out of the speaker at the store where the demo ran was on another level. Bought the CD and listen to it every now and then, and Orbital's Petrol track is still up there on my top 100 list. There was something raw, and edge, that seems lost in so much electronic music thes…

CoLD SToRAGE released a new edition of the Wipeout soundtrack; vinyl still available, plenty of remixes onboard.

https://coldstorage.bandcamp.com/album/wipeout-the-zero-grav...

Re: The Impact of Jungle Music in 90s Video Game Development

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Post by WaxProlix »

MivLives wrote: post #181
WaxProlix wrote: post #171

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I've not found that to be the case, though I'm only casually interested these days (too old to feel comfortable at most events, worried I'm more there to relive the good old days than a 'genuine' interest etc). With dB festival gone, do people just hit up showbox or monkey loft shows and try to make friends?

19hz has a good listing of events. A lot of it is announced on Instagram or Telegram (or the old classic of looking at the fliers on the telephone poles of cap hill). Renegades still happen (the bridge has been a super popular spot) but that season is sorta over. I more favor the Kremwork (that's more my scene) or digital hardcore shows which seem to just pop up everywhere.

Awesome stuff thanks, as to kremwork I wasn't aware they'd survived little marias closing - glad to hear some culture is left in the city. Funny to hear of it via HN but hey small world.

Re: The Impact of Jungle Music in 90s Video Game Development

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Post by bookaway »

AntoniusBlock wrote: post #212

Some excellent contemporary Jungle producers, if anyone wants recommendations: Dead Man's Chest, Tim Reaper, Equinox and Coco Bryce. These lads are producing bangers better, or on par, with the producers of the late 80s and 90s.

I'm looking for the more Ragga heavy melodic dirty sounding jungle a la Krinjah's Return or Hold Yuh remix. Any new people on that sound?
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