It's really hard to find serious journalism being done out there, and The Guardian is definitely not helping on that.
Why the Guardian is no longer posting on X
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Since it’s the platform that takes freedom of speech the most seriously, it caters to people who are for freedom of speech.
Hey remember this? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41662702 Fun times
Oh yeah this thing that went against X rules?
https://x.com/MJTruthUltra/status/1839463404286746770
To be fair they could censor a million differing opinions and still be the free speech platform among competitors.
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Hey remember this? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41662702 Fun times
I don't even know why they bother with that kind of research. It's obvious that Trump can just lie and all his supporters believe it because they have a propaganda arm that's perceived as "news". The Trump believers all think that "MSM" is lying to them but for some reason they think that Fox and NewsMax and Alex Jones aren't (when the exact opposite is true). It's like the whole hush money thing. Turns out it just d…
He’s going with the old classic: the opposite side is brainwashed and dumb!
Another home run.
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I don't think that's true. But if it is, can you blame them? Community notes are not impartial and X has become incredibly biased towards the far right.
X is pretty moderate to be honest. At least the popular opinions are the same moderates held in the 00s.
I don't think this is true, popular tweeters, including Elon, often spread misinformation that functions as right-wing propaganda. Typically they just quote tweet someone else, add on nothing like "interesting..." or "wow..." and then post it. Of course, they're quote tweeting actual far-right pundits or sometimes neo-nazis. There're some arguments about plausible deniability - I don't know if someone like Elon is aware that some of the people he's quote tweeted are neo-nazis.
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"Reality has a well-known liberal bias" There's a difference between being objective and being unbiased.
wtf. Dictionary.com says "Objective most commonly means not influenced by an individual’s personal viewpoint—unbiased (or at least attempting to be unbiased). It’s often used to describe things like observations, decisions, or reports that are based on an unbiased analysis." https://www.dictionary.com/e/subjective-vs-objective/ I'm not sure why you quoted it, but "Reality has a well-known liberal bias" is a joke you…
What they mean is that if you approach some issues with "[no influence] by [your] individual personal viewpoint" you end up running into a leftist or slightly moderate viewpoint.
For example, take climate change. If you come at it looking only at the facts, you'll recognize we need more renewable energy and climate change poses a threat. Donald Trump, to contrast, in intending to put more money on oil and gas and remove subsidies for renewable energy.
Or, if you prefer, the economy. It's more or less undisputed that tariffs will hurt the GDP and overall economy of the US. However, Donald Trump claims tariffs will help the US economy.
Or, perhaps what the GOP has treasured most of all these past few years, the culture war. For example, gender-neutral bathrooms. From a neutral perspective, forcing trans people to use the bathroom of their assigned gender at birth will backfire tremendously. Instead of having trans women in women's restrooms, now you will have big burly and hairy trans men. Or look at gender affirming care, we have statistics about gender affirming care lowering the risk of suicide. But the right claims gender affirming care causes suicide and has a high regret rate.
Those are just a few examples, but if you look at popular conservative policies and then try to reason about them you kind of hit a wall.
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I’m sick to death of everything being described as “opinions that challenge one’s worldview”. There are opinions and there are opinions. There are also philosophical differences of opinion vs things that blatantly factually untrue. Remember “alternative facts”? from the last US election? That was a thing that someone legitimately said in response to specific tangible factually incorrect statements being made about th…
Is your X feed an unfiltered firehose of utter garbage? Mine isn't. That really only speaks to the fact that the algorithm finds that you are more likely to engage with garbage.
There're multiple problems here. If your feed was utter garbage, would you be able to tell? How often do you fact check tweets? For most people, I suspect it's close to never.
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> It's wild how much most people rely on being in an echo chamber. It takes a psychological toll being confronted with opinions that challenge your worldview on a regular basis, especially if you cannot easily dismiss them. I can easily dismiss antisemitic conspiracy theories, queerphobia, bigotry, and racism. There's an infinite stream of garbage positions, why would would I engage with them?
As I mentioned in a sibling comment, your feed is only toxic insofar you are likely to engage with it. I have never seen a single post on my feed of the vein you are describing. By the way, there is equally ridiculous garbage on the left, if you go looking for it. You are doing the same thing that every partisan media outlet does, the oldest trick in the book: arguing against a strawman. Just because there is some le…
> your feed is only toxic insofar you are likely to engage with it.
Right, and bigotry raises engagement. This isn't rocket science. Garbage opinions get popular because of how garbage they are. It's the same reason why traffic slows down when there's a car wreck on the other side of the interstate.
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More like the fact that Elon Musk literally bought himself a cabinet position and basically the president himself in almost the most blatant and transparently corrupt way possible. > it's sad Even more sad when people lack the concept of nuance and see the world as entirely black and white.
How is Elon Musk any different from the plethora of famous people endorsing democrats? I am guessing you don't think they are corrupt? This double standards is what people are fed up with and people just don't care what mainstream news have tp say anymore because we can listen to the people we want to listen to directly without journalists as a filter. There used to be some kind of honor in media but like in everythi…
> How is Elon Musk any different from the plethora of famous people endorsing democrats?
They don't want cabinet positions, lol. Trump has spoken on choosing pretty awful unqualified people for his cabinet and various agencies.
This isn't some unknown secret, it's his strategy. Of course, he's going to appoint the dude who doesn't believe in climate change to run the EPA. There's no point in denying this flavor of corruption, because it's intentional and obvious GOP strategy and has been for decades.
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“All the people flocking to Bluesky — were you outraged at the Covid censorship and Hunter Biden laptop election interference in October 2020?” And the same gaslighting was echoed here on HN as well, don’t hold your breath for any such acknowledgement though.
1. nobody cares about Hunter's laptop. Even the GOP doesn't care, they just pretend to care for outrage, meaning it's just rage bait. Hunter Biden isn't related to anything to do with politics
2. Covid censorship. In case we've all forgotten, over 500,000 Americans died due to Covid. There was a lot of misinformation spread around Covid. This misinformation costs lives. Now, granted, it's not necessarily intentional misinformation because Covid was novel. So, our understanding was constantly changing. But telling people to, say, inject bleach or take horse tranquilizers is legitimately irresponsible.