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I think it's much more reasonable for a news outlet to have a political opinion than a social platform.

The social platform doesn’t have a political opinion. Its owner does. Every owner of every company ever has had political opinions.

You're implying said owner doesn't influence the workings of the platform. He does.

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A screenshot on X? It must be true! I’m sure those links back up the assertion. No one would just post something misleading on X, right? /s Maybe the assertion in the tweet is true and maybe it isn’t, but to me, this is the real reason that X should be abandoned. No one on X can be trusted to engage in honest discourse. I don’t believe anything, whether it’s coming from the right or the left if it’s posted on X. You…

And Wikipedia.

Wikipedia isn’t the cesspool that X is, but yeah, it’s not as reliable as many people think it is.

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I’m sick to death of everything being described as “opinions that challenge one’s worldview”. There are opinions and there are opinions. There are also philosophical differences of opinion vs things that blatantly factually untrue. Remember “alternative facts”? from the last US election? That was a thing that someone legitimately said in response to specific tangible factually incorrect statements being made about th…

Is your X feed an unfiltered firehose of utter garbage? Mine isn't. That really only speaks to the fact that the algorithm finds that you are more likely to engage with garbage.

You really need to think this through more than "my feed is fine"

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And Wikipedia.

Wikipedia isn’t the cesspool that X is, but yeah, it’s not as reliable as many people think it is.

Trust, reliability, bias are things that have a scale.

I'm always skeptical of things I read, the advantage Wikipedia has is that it's easy enough to see what references are used and how active community edits and debate on an article is.

Nuggets of "information" posted to X, Faceook, and the like are often much harder to dig into and peer behind the curtain of.

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Yann Lecun is also telling everyone on Twitter very loudly that he won't be posting on Twitter. The Guardian in another article explains that they are annoyed because Musk used twitter to promote his preferred candidate. The Guardian itself used their own platform to publicly endorse Harris. This deja-vu of childish antics is just comical in 2024

Generally, when newspapers endorse a candidate that runs on the editorial page. How did Musk use Twitter to promote his candidate? Was it on whatever the Twitter equivalent of editorial pages are? Was it promoting posts favorable to that candidate in people's feed and/or demoting posts favorable to other candidates? Details matter in these things.

The discussion in here is infuriatingly childish. Saying a news site is just the same as a site that's ended up as Elon's (and numerous rightwing trolls') soapbox...

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In related news Bluesky added 700,000 new users in the week after the election. Count me in the group who deleted Twitter as soon as the election was over - (I had planned to do so however the election went) https://www.theverge.com/2024/11/11/24293920/bluesky-700000-...

I deleted Twitter as soon as musk took over because he’s a feudalist

I deleted Twitter back when they changed their community guidelines to carve out exemptions for important people (Trump as president), looks like that was 2019. Figured it was downhill from there...

https://blog.x.com/en_us/topics/company/2019/worldleaders201...

Re: Why the Guardian is no longer posting on X

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X is hundreds of millions of people so it’s hard to claim it’s anything

X refers to the company itself, not every user. And by extension naturally it should refer to the algorithms developed by the company.

The algos are public information so if there was bias it seems like it’d be fairly straightforward to show it

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I'm wondering if it's just economics. Are they losing money from X existing? Are they trying to start some "let's all move away from X" trend?

I deleted my Twitter account when I drew the analogy of: imagine a magazine, that your friends can subscribe to, to read your thoughts. By contributing to this magazine you contribute to your friend's desire to "buy copies" of it, and you contribute to its ability to sell ads. I decided I didn't want to do that any more.

Maybe it's the same with the Guardian. Although when I left, Elmo hadn't bought it and it actually had legitimate businesses buying ad space.

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Yann Lecun is also telling everyone on Twitter very loudly that he won't be posting on Twitter. The Guardian in another article explains that they are annoyed because Musk used twitter to promote his preferred candidate. The Guardian itself used their own platform to publicly endorse Harris. This deja-vu of childish antics is just comical in 2024

Very disappointing to see that overt bias from Yann LeCun. Makes me wonder how much Meta and Llama can be trusted on AI.

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Real reason: The Guardian can't handle when readers community note them using.. The Guardian. https://twitter.com/MarioNawfal/status/1821189070401249385/p...

Twitter could make itself real interesting if it took "community notes" web-wide. So many attempts at this have tried and failed, but Elon may just have the itch, audience, and disposable money to do it. Would also necessitate forking a special browser, since there would be no way to support web page comments in a first-class way in stock mobile browsers.

My recollection is that Gab made a plugin for browsers called Dissenter that did something like this, but they were banned from the Mozilla and Chrome stores under their moderation/censorship policies. I’ve never used it but I think it created a discussion on top of any URL. They ended up making a browser fork of Chrome but it probably went nowhere.
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