I have yet to be on a social media platform that isn't toxic in some form. I think it's more likely that they'll find people who agree with their biases on Bluesky, and that's the real reason they're switching.
Are you including Hacker News in that?
Why the Guardian is no longer posting on X
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#82Yann Lecun is also telling everyone on Twitter very loudly that he won't be posting on Twitter. The Guardian in another article explains that they are annoyed because Musk used twitter to promote his preferred candidate. The Guardian itself used their own platform to publicly endorse Harris. This deja-vu of childish antics is just comical in 2024
The Guardian is a newspaper with a long-proclaimed left-wing bias. Musk has claimed that X is politically neutral.
X is hundreds of millions of people so it’s hard to claim it’s anything
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#83Long overdue. There is no good reason for any jounalists, honest organizations ... or people ... to use twitter.com (you can call it "X" ... but it's still twitter.com).
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#84The traditional news in their assessments on why the Democrats lost and Trump won seem to be focusing on platforms and sites. They think the content of a message and where the message appears is more important than the messaging or how a message is conveyed.
The guardian will no longer post to twitter but they will keep on harvesting news from it and about it.
On average every 3 days someone submits to HN an article against Elon Musk written by The Guardian. I imagine there are more articles written than are submitted. Musk and Twitter provide a huge amount of material for them.
Past year HN submissions (111): https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=pastYear&page=0&prefix=tru...
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#85Re: Why the Guardian is no longer posting on X
#86Yann Lecun is also telling everyone on Twitter very loudly that he won't be posting on Twitter. The Guardian in another article explains that they are annoyed because Musk used twitter to promote his preferred candidate. The Guardian itself used their own platform to publicly endorse Harris. This deja-vu of childish antics is just comical in 2024
Musk claims he is trying to be an open and free speech town square. I don’t have an opinion on whether he did this or not but it is certainly the case that if he put his finger on the scales that goes against his claims.
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#87Yann Lecun is also telling everyone on Twitter very loudly that he won't be posting on Twitter. The Guardian in another article explains that they are annoyed because Musk used twitter to promote his preferred candidate. The Guardian itself used their own platform to publicly endorse Harris. This deja-vu of childish antics is just comical in 2024
I think it's much more reasonable for a news outlet to have a political opinion than a social platform.
I agree, and this comes with the responsibility of being a "publisher" rather than a "carrier".
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#88Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think it's much more reasonable for a news outlet to have a political opinion than a social platform.
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Endorsements for political candidates are done via the editorial boards which are different from the newsrooms. The editorial boards of news organizations have always had opinions and publish them as such. There is nothing problematic with this approach.
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#89Yann Lecun is also telling everyone on Twitter very loudly that he won't be posting on Twitter. The Guardian in another article explains that they are annoyed because Musk used twitter to promote his preferred candidate. The Guardian itself used their own platform to publicly endorse Harris. This deja-vu of childish antics is just comical in 2024
Maybe this isn't something you believe, but actual adults can have different opinions and then choose not to associate with one another. There's nothing childish about that.
Help me understand, though: what are you actually proposing? That The Guardian, while feeling they can't get their own message out given how Musk runs Twitter, should stay on Twitter? Should anyone disadvantaged by how Twitter is run stay there?
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#90Earlier quoted context omitted.
That is them stating their opinion. That is not them "undermining the free flow of information". > Discussion about any of the above points happen in a "free" environment in which all parties can express their views. You are free to discuss the article on twitter, or, as you are already doing, here. The Guardian isn't stopping you.
Well from their post alone it seems they would impose their particular world-view in their comment section. Isn't Guardian a "news" outlet, by which being "neutral" and "accommodating to a plurality of ideas" is a inherent virtue? Also it appears their editorial board and "community" is not able to defend their political stances on a free playground. >The Guardian isn't stopping you I think they would have, if there…
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