lol so they're just advertising directly to students now huh?
A Student's Guide to Writing with ChatGPT
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#32I was talking to a teacher today that works with me at length about the impact of AI LLM models are having now when considering student's attitude towards learning. When I was young, I refused to learn geography because we had map applications. I could just look it up. I did the same for anything I could, offload the cognitive overhead to something better -- I think this is something we all do consciously or not. Tha…
Which is ironic, because geography isn’t about memorizing maps
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#33Earlier quoted context omitted.
Wouldn't it be unfair towards the students who want to learn without LLMs?
Why does that matter? LLMs are going to be increasingly important tools, so it's valuable for educators to help students understand how to use them well. If you choose to exclude modern tools in your teaching to avoid disadvantaging those who don't want to use them, you disadvantage all the students who do want to use them. To put it another way, modern high school level math classes disadvantage students who want to…
Re: A Student's Guide to Writing with ChatGPT
#34I was talking to a teacher today that works with me at length about the impact of AI LLM models are having now when considering student's attitude towards learning. When I was young, I refused to learn geography because we had map applications. I could just look it up. I did the same for anything I could, offload the cognitive overhead to something better -- I think this is something we all do consciously or not. Tha…
> We talked about "critical thinking", "creative problem solving", and "comprehension of complex systems" as the next step, but even when discussing this, how long will it be until more models or workflows catch up? Either these things are important to learn for their own sake or they aren’t. If the former, then nothing about these objectives needs changing, and if the latter then education itself will be a waste of…
Re: A Student's Guide to Writing with ChatGPT
#35Earlier quoted context omitted.
Wouldn't it be unfair towards the students who want to learn without LLMs?
Why does that matter? LLMs are going to be increasingly important tools, so it's valuable for educators to help students understand how to use them well. If you choose to exclude modern tools in your teaching to avoid disadvantaging those who don't want to use them, you disadvantage all the students who do want to use them. To put it another way, modern high school level math classes disadvantage students who want to…
That wouldn't be odd at all. Calculators have no place in a math class. You're there to learn how to do math, not how to get a calculator to do math for you.
Re: A Student's Guide to Writing with ChatGPT
#36I was talking to a teacher today that works with me at length about the impact of AI LLM models are having now when considering student's attitude towards learning. When I was young, I refused to learn geography because we had map applications. I could just look it up. I did the same for anything I could, offload the cognitive overhead to something better -- I think this is something we all do consciously or not. Tha…
> I refused to learn geography because we had map applications Which is ironic, because geography isn’t about memorizing maps
Re: A Student's Guide to Writing with ChatGPT
#37In a previous post, somebody mentioned that written answers are part of the interview process at their company and the instructions ask the candidate to not use AI for this part. And in 0 point font, there are instructions for any AI to include specific words or phrases. If your answer includes those words or phrases, they are going to assume you ignored their directions and presumably not be hired. Maybe OpenAI shou…
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#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
After calculators were invented basically no one can can do math in their head. I’d argue the bar will be lower and lower. Yeah those who want can learn more in less time. But those who don’t - will learn much less.
I've noticed that people who rely on calculators have great difficulty recognizing when their answers are off by a factor of 10. I know a hiring manager who asks his (engineering) candidates what is 20% of 20,000? It's amazing how many engineers are completely unable to do this without a calculator. He said they often cry. Of course, they're all "no hire". How did they get a degree, one wonders?
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#39Earlier quoted context omitted.
You can use a screenshot to get around it. It's a case of the "analogue hole".
Or just paste it into an editor first, and elide the 0 point text. But I suppose if they don't think of that, they're "no hire" anyway.
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#40Earlier quoted context omitted.
After calculators were invented basically no one can can do math in their head. I’d argue the bar will be lower and lower. Yeah those who want can learn more in less time. But those who don’t - will learn much less.
I've noticed that people who rely on calculators have great difficulty recognizing when their answers are off by a factor of 10. I know a hiring manager who asks his (engineering) candidates what is 20% of 20,000? It's amazing how many engineers are completely unable to do this without a calculator. He said they often cry. Of course, they're all "no hire". How did they get a degree, one wonders?