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Mom jailed for letting 10-year-old walk alone to town

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Re: Mom jailed for letting 10-year-old walk alone to town

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Too big of a liability and not enough ROI, or negative ROI from what I've seen with others who have children. How does having a child help me diversify my portfolio? All I see is a bad risk.

If you see children like that, you're not ready (some people will never be ready, it's ok).

If you see a comment like that only at literal face value, you're not ready for a lot of things, and it's not ok.

Re: Mom jailed for letting 10-year-old walk alone to town

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I don’t know what is up with the USA and its obsession that kids cannot have autonomy. I think many of us grew up where our parents didn’t know our location at all times. My parents used to tell me to be home by a certain time, but I used to roam the neighborhood, go get candy at the gas station, explore the forest. Maybe it is a sign of the eroding social trust in the USA where people do not believe that others in t…

USA is actually way more dangerous than Europe.

Can you provide a source for that claim? Mine says the total crime rate in Europe is actually much higher:

https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Evolution-of-crime-rates...

Re: Mom jailed for letting 10-year-old walk alone to town

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> 80 km/h road Non-American detected Please use Google Street View on the roads coming in to Mineral Bluffs, Ga, USA. No bike lines, and we're not even keen on emergency shoulder for cars and trucks!

Please use Google street view in any small town around the world and notice the prevalence of foot traffic. Even on roads with no shoulder, bike lane, sidewalk or similar. I've walked to school since I was 6 on roads not too dissimilar.

Gonna have to disagree with you. Most car-centric (even small) towns I have seen do NOT have a prevalence of foot traffic.

Re: Mom jailed for letting 10-year-old walk alone to town

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It's wild to me that the fact that he has his own phone isn't considered security enough. Surely by 10 or 11 years old, the kid knows how to call for help if he needs it.

Wasn't that many years ago, children didn't have phones when away from the house...

Wasn't that many years that not even every household had any phones.

Re: Mom jailed for letting 10-year-old walk alone to town

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I think this part is being underappreciated too:

> It would require her to delegate a "safety person" to be a "knowing participant and guardian" and watch over the children whenever she leaves home.

I was 11 when I started "babysitting" my 9 and 6yo siblings, and 12 when I started babysitting other people's kids. I took a Red Cross training course, got certified, and that was that. Heck, there was a whole series of kids books, The Babysitters Club, about kids who were just 12-13.

Is it no longer normal to leave younger children in the care of older children when parents go out? Even beyond whether a pre-teen should be fine walking to and from town, they need supervision at home whenever mom leaves??

Re: Mom jailed for letting 10-year-old walk alone to town

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I don't know if you can can say the entire USA has an "obsession" with preventing children from being autonomous based on this one incident. That's too much of a generalization. There are obviously people who do think that way. But there are also a lot who do not, including the mother, who said "I was not panicking as I know the roads and know he is mature enough to walk there without incident." This situation is rid…

It's not based on this incident, it's based on this incident happening and on the fact that there are laws making this possible, plus zero checks on the people doing it. Nobody saying "this is insane, stop it". This was voted in, in theory, by the majority of the US population. Oh, and of course that they're doing it. After all, they're not doing this of their own volition. They're paid by the government. In other wo…

Well, the mother who was arrested doesn't agree with the policy. I wouldn't be surprised if she is saying it's insane, and it should be stopped. She got a lawyer to help push back against the charges.

This was voted in, in theory, by the majority of the US population.

The laws vary state by state, and probably by region within states. So this seems to be a law in Fannin County, Georgia. It might not even apply to all of Georgia, much less the entire country. It certainly does not apply in the city I live in. It might apply in other parts of the state I live in.

And it would not have been put to the entire country for a vote.

Re: Mom jailed for letting 10-year-old walk alone to town

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My Japanese friend told me his parents would send him to the store for beer at age 5. (He would successfully return with beer) I gather things are different now over there...

Where is “over there”?

Japan namely. While I cannot say whether or not a store would sell beer to a 5 year old, no longer can anyone just buy beer or cigarettes (and more) from vending machines.

Re: Mom jailed for letting 10-year-old walk alone to town

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What’s wild is this is happening in Georgia.

When I hear about police getting involved simply because a person is out walking, the story almost always turns out to be about somewhere in the south.

Well, Maryland is indeed south of the Mason-Dixon line, but Montgomery County is pretty generic mid-Atlantic suburban, and the first "free range kids" story I remember hearing was from Silver Spring.

Re: Mom jailed for letting 10-year-old walk alone to town

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Is there a place in the United States where letting your children walk to school on their own is legal?

I routinely see kids catching the city bus to school unaccompanied by adults, and now and then I see them walking on their own.

My main concern in this area would be the drivers, who drive negligently, and often too fast.

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