ReiserFS is named after the author, which is an oddity among file systems or open source projects in general. I wonder if it would have seen further development if it had been named something else.
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ReiserFS and the Art and Artist Problem
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Re: ReiserFS and the Art and Artist Problem
#52Earlier quoted context omitted.
A jerk is one thing; a murderer is something else.
There is also such a thing as lobbying for laws that make a lot of people's lives difficult, destroy QALYs, and possibly cause stochastic death. It's only called "murder" when it's trivial to measure it, see.
The idea of “stochastic death” is a dangerous and unhelpful escalation of rhetoric that amounts to an excuse to call someone a murderer because they said something you disagree with. It’s the idea that Biden was somehow a “partial murderer” because he said something that might have, possibly, maybe, influenced a wacko to attempt an assassination on Trump. If we start calling everyone a type of murderer, it cheapens the word, dishonors the victims of actual murder, and hardens hearts with hate and fear of the dreaded Other when what the tribalists need most is a little mutual understanding.
Re: ReiserFS and the Art and Artist Problem
#53Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yet for many people, the very act of choosing results in a halo that goes beyond the acquisition itself. You may think you’re choosing a technology, and nothing further. But others may see your decision as a broader endorsement. Are they right to do so? Don’t know. Maybe not. But it is a real effect. The quandary is therefore ethical.
no the quandary is political. it's about how others see you.
Politics is, among other things, a way to negotiate the ethics of a society and how they're applied.
Re: ReiserFS and the Art and Artist Problem
#54ReiserFS is named after the author, which is an oddity among file systems or open source projects in general. I wonder if it would have seen further development if it had been named something else.
I don't know how much of an oddity it is, but Linux is probably the most known FLOSS. OK Linus himself wanted to name it "freak" or something like that.
But if I recall, it was not named that by Linus, but by the FTP administrator, who didn't like the name Linus chose.
Re: ReiserFS and the Art and Artist Problem
#55ReiserFS is named after the author, which is an oddity among file systems or open source projects in general. I wonder if it would have seen further development if it had been named something else.
I don't know how much of an oddity it is, but Linux is probably the most known FLOSS. OK Linus himself wanted to name it "freak" or something like that.
Meanwhile we have a graphics suite called gimp, a 3D model loading library called assimp and if someone calls for blender, you can't be sure if it's the kitchen utensil or the 3d creation suite. :)
Re: ReiserFS and the Art and Artist Problem
#56The premise of this post is incorrect.
ReiserFS stuck around for almost two decades after his crime. The reason it’s being removed has very little to do with his crime and more to do with the stability and maintenance capabilities of it.
For reference, his wife was missing in 2006. He was prosecuted in 2008. It was deprecated in 2022 and scheduled to be removed in 2025.
How does someone believe that it’s due to his history when there’s been almost twenty years of grace?
The reason for removal has been very clear by the Linux maintainers.
There was a consensus among upstream kernel developers to deprecate ReiserFS given that there are no notable users of it any longer, the code is barely maintained, and no legitimate reasons have been found to user ReiserFS over any of the modern alternatives like EXT4, XFS, Btrfs, F2FS, etc.
Re: ReiserFS and the Art and Artist Problem
#57Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't know how much of an oddity it is, but Linux is probably the most known FLOSS. OK Linus himself wanted to name it "freak" or something like that.
But if I recall, it was not named that by Linus, but by the FTP administrator, who didn't like the name Linus chose.
The FTP admin knew no one would be interested in a project named "Freax"
Re: ReiserFS and the Art and Artist Problem
#58Earlier quoted context omitted.
no the quandary is political. it's about how others see you.
Politics is, among other things, a way to negotiate the ethics of a society and how they're applied.
you can replace "ethics" with most common nouns in that sentence and it'll probably work.
Re: ReiserFS and the Art and Artist Problem
#59Back in the day on Slashdot the Reiser/ReiserFS saga was one of the more interesting linux-related dramas. Seems like the other FS options in the kernel are now unequivocally superior and ReiserFS is completely obsolete.
Re: ReiserFS and the Art and Artist Problem
#60I'm very glad there is a transcript so I didn't have to listen to it. It seems like in this case ReiserFS is being deprecated and removed because it is no longer used and not because of who the creator is? https://www.phoronix.com/news/ReiserFS-Deprecate-Remove-2025 If so, then this isn't really about separating the art from the artist?
Yeah, it’s been almost two decades.
Anyone saying it’s art vs artist now would only make sense if people were clamouring to keep it in because of who the creator is.
Otherwise this is no different than any other project that fell off the wagon of support due to issues in a maintainers life outside the project.