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ReiserFS and the Art and Artist Problem

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Re: ReiserFS and the Art and Artist Problem

#3
Hey, I made this. It uses OpenAI voices for Hans and others, which some found too robotic.

The topic on my mind around this was: in the large, like MJ or Woody Allen, it's hard to make a call on the art vs. artist.

But in the small, it's much easier because people aren't divided into domains. It's all mixed together. And if you can't work with people, if you can't be a team player you limit your abilities.

ReiserFS4 didn't get merged because of his empathy issues, and those issues are also presumably contributors to his murdering his wife.

So it's all wrapped up together. Making stuff is a team sport. Even people like Fabrice Bellard seem to be successful because of collaboration. Everything uses FFmpeg, but he's no longer the main contributor. It's successful because of people working together.

But yeah, let me know what you think.

Re: ReiserFS and the Art and Artist Problem

#5
Some part of me always assumes people are innocent. I think I just see too much of myself in others and when they commit some act I never would it seems genuinely outside reality.

I remember vividly being a very tech-involved twenty year old, extremely excited about Reiser4 when this all came to light and thinking "There's no way he did it! They don't even have a body, they don't even know she is dead" right up until he lead the investigators to the body. Then I felt so dumb.

The whole thing honestly lead to a lot of self reflection and questioning of my own instincts. Frankly, it made me a little more cynical about people overall. That said, I am still a perennial optimist.

Re: ReiserFS and the Art and Artist Problem

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You can like the work but hate the jerk. The real question comes when you decide whether to financially support a jerk's work.

So once a jerk artist is dead and can no longer benefit from their work, it becomes easier to consume their art without moral concern?

Re: ReiserFS and the Art and Artist Problem

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You can like the work but hate the jerk. The real question comes when you decide whether to financially support a jerk's work.

A jerk is one thing; a murderer is something else.

If a murderer creates a file system/energy source/mouse trap that is effectively better than all of the alternatives, and generates value to the world, what he did in his personal life is effectively moot. There is no ethics problem involved in choosing the best solution to a problem, when that solution exists.

Re: ReiserFS and the Art and Artist Problem

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You can like the work but hate the jerk. The real question comes when you decide whether to financially support a jerk's work.

So once a jerk artist is dead and can no longer benefit from their work, it becomes easier to consume their art without moral concern?

Yes, literally. Same argument applies to limited copyright terms. Though I'd say it would be with less concern, not completely without it.

Re: ReiserFS and the Art and Artist Problem

#10
I'm very glad there is a transcript so I didn't have to listen to it. It seems like in this case ReiserFS is being deprecated and removed because it is no longer used and not because of who the creator is? https://www.phoronix.com/news/ReiserFS-Deprecate-Remove-2025

If so, then this isn't really about separating the art from the artist?

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