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Re: Nearly half of Americans think members of the opposing political party are evil

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Post by h2odragon »

Very few people are actually involved in politics on a personal basis. Those few have reason to be more passionate.

Everybody else, whose only involvement is to be a victim of politician plans, has no call for the levels of emotion that some of us invest in political puffery. We've got people bragging over "I'm no longer speaking to family" over ephemeral tribal alliances less relevant to their day to day lives than sports teams.

all enemies are Hitler and yesterday's heroes are today's villains for heresy because they did not hate hard enough. Evil is abundant.

Re: Nearly half of Americans think members of the opposing political party are evil

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Post by leereeves »

bediger4000 wrote: post #6

What's the role of the Qanon Belief System in this? Seems to me like an important part of it, and yet Qanon beliefs are so stupid that everyone feels dumb talking about them.

Did you ever actually know anyone who believed in Qanon? I never did. It seemed like another of those fringe groups that the Internet loves to talk about, but which is super rare in reality, like flat Earthers.

Re: Nearly half of Americans think members of the opposing political party are evil

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Post by leereeves »

sundaeofshock wrote: post #19
janmarsal wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You mean the evil fascist and racist donald trump?

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Sounds like you're both in the half of Americans who think members of the opposing political party are evil, and encouraging/inspiring others to think members of the opposing political party are evil.

Re: Nearly half of Americans think members of the opposing political party are evil

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Post by WillAdams »

leereeves wrote: post #16
bediger4000 wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your belief has a flaw. As an analogy: Two children argue over how to share a cookie. One child argues that the cookie should be split in half. The other child says that he should get the entire cookie. The adult, believing that each child is not as unfair as the other claims, gives 75% to the second child, and 25% to the first child.

What does that analogy have to do with George Washington?

Edited my post to remove a statement when I remembered I don't want to discuss politics here.

It was a cogent response to my original post, and I will yield the point, though I don't fully agree with it.

Re: Nearly half of Americans think members of the opposing political party are evil

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Post by slowmovintarget »

thinkingtoilet wrote: post #8
01HNNWZ0MV43FF wrote: post #2

It's a rough position for a country to be in, that's for sure. I have to believe we can talk our way out of it, cause I don't want a civil war

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We can agree that Trump lost the election.

But there are some additional facts that apply to the sentiment that the election was, at least, unfair. The suppression of the Hunter Biden laptop story, which demonstrated influence peddling (at best) on the part of Hunter and Joe, had it become widely known before the election, would likely have influenced an estimated 1 million votes.

The Google suggestion and search manipulation during the election, which has been documented, is estimated to have influenced 6 to 7 million votes.

Trump lost by 88,000 votes in one state.

He lost the election, and we can toss out all the other alleged conspiracies, and still say the election was unfair. Not stolen, but not above board, either.

We can also agree that January 6th was a disgusting episode in our country's political history.

But for the conversation: Can we start by stopping the demonization and build from a base of being fellow Americans?

Re: Nearly half of Americans think members of the opposing political party are evil

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Post by sundaeofshock »

leereeves wrote: post #23
sundaeofshock wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Sounds like you're both in the half of Americans who think members of the opposing political party are evil, and encouraging/inspiring others to think members of the opposing political party are evil.

Help me out here. Are you suggesting that I’m having an irrational response to Donald Trump’s violent rhetoric? Should trans people - for example - not be afraid of a Trump presidency?

Re: Nearly half of Americans think members of the opposing political party are evil

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Post by leereeves »

sundaeofshock wrote: post #28
leereeves wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sounds like you're both in the half of Americans who think members of the opposing political party are evil, and encouraging/inspiring others to think members of the opposing political party are evil.

Help me out here. Are you suggesting that I’m having an irrational response to Donald Trump’s violent rhetoric? Should trans people - for example - not be afraid of a Trump presidency?

Please be specific. What threats has Trump made against trans people?

Re: Nearly half of Americans think members of the opposing political party are evil

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Post by bediger4000 »

leereeves wrote: post #22
bediger4000 wrote: post #6

What's the role of the Qanon Belief System in this? Seems to me like an important part of it, and yet Qanon beliefs are so stupid that everyone feels dumb talking about them.

Did you ever actually know anyone who believed in Qanon? I never did. It seemed like another of those fringe groups that the Internet loves to talk about, but which is super rare in reality, like flat Earthers.

A cousin or two, yes. I see Qanon bumper stickers quite often. They can't all be ironic.
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