Hah, OpenAI is becoming an ads business too. So much for something new, same old funding model for every centralized platform on the web.
If they are making billions from subscriptions, why on earth would they want to switch to an ads business?
ChatGPT Search
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Re: ChatGPT Search
#252Been thinking about this a lot [1]. Will this fundamentally change how people find and access information? How do you create an experience so compelling that it replaces the current paradigm? The future promised in Star Trek and even Apple's Knowledge Navigator [2] from 1987 still feels distant. In those visions, users simply asked questions and received reliable answers - nobody had to fact-check the answers ever. C…
Traditional search is just spamming text at the machine until it does or doesn't give you want you want.
That's the magic with LLMs for me. Not that I can ask and get an answer, that's just basic web search. It's the ability to ask, refine what I'm looking for and, continue work from there.
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#253Been thinking about this a lot [1]. Will this fundamentally change how people find and access information? How do you create an experience so compelling that it replaces the current paradigm? The future promised in Star Trek and even Apple's Knowledge Navigator [2] from 1987 still feels distant. In those visions, users simply asked questions and received reliable answers - nobody had to fact-check the answers ever. C…
It's interesting how prescient it was, but I'm more struck wondering--would anyone in 1987 have predicted it would take 40+ years to achieve this? Obviously this was speculative at the time but I know history is rife with examples of AI experts since the 60s proclaiming AGI was only a few years away
Is this time really different? There's certainly been a huge jump in capabilities in just a few years but given the long history of overoptimistic predictions I'm not confident
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#254LLMs have the chance to cannibalize the web and become the primary interface for knowledge. But if websites remain the final destination, it’s good for content creators. The only other way to kill the web without killing LLMs in the process would be to create a way for people to upload structured public content directly into an LLM’s training. That would delay public content into release batches unless training can b…
“Way to put public content directly into an LLM training” - sounds like Chatgpt
Re: ChatGPT Search
#255Been thinking about this a lot [1]. Will this fundamentally change how people find and access information? How do you create an experience so compelling that it replaces the current paradigm? The future promised in Star Trek and even Apple's Knowledge Navigator [2] from 1987 still feels distant. In those visions, users simply asked questions and received reliable answers - nobody had to fact-check the answers ever. C…
Showing users what they want to see conflicts with your other goal of receiving reliable answers that don't need fact checked.
Also a lot of questions people ask don't have one right answer, or even a good answer. Reliable human knowledge is much smaller than human curiosity.
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#256Re: ChatGPT Search
#257If the current iteration of search engines are producing garbage results (due to an influx of garbage + SEO gaming their ranking systems) and LLMs are producing inaccurate results without any clear method proposed to correct them, why would combining the two systems not also produce garbage? The problem I see with search is that the input is deeply hostile to what the consumers of search want. If the LLM's are partic…
If I can pretty quickly tell a site is SEO spam, so should the LLM, no? Of course that would just start a new round in the SEO arms race, but could work for a while.
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#258Re: ChatGPT Search
#259Genuine question: is there a present or planned value proposition for people like me who already have decent search skills? Or are these really for children/elders who (without making any normative claim about whether this is a good thing or not) can't be arsed to perform searches themselves? Does someone else have good search skills but mingle traditional search engines with LLMs anyways? Why? I use LLMs every day b…
Re: ChatGPT Search
#260If the current iteration of search engines are producing garbage results (due to an influx of garbage + SEO gaming their ranking systems) and LLMs are producing inaccurate results without any clear method proposed to correct them, why would combining the two systems not also produce garbage? The problem I see with search is that the input is deeply hostile to what the consumers of search want. If the LLM's are partic…
If I can pretty quickly tell a site is SEO spam, so should the LLM, no? Of course that would just start a new round in the SEO arms race, but could work for a while.
Why would you assume that?