This is just Galaxy Nexus, right? My Nexus 7 will still be shipped in 2-3 weeks?
Galaxy Nexus ban remains, Apple posts $95.6M bond, Google stops selling
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#72Earlier quoted context omitted.
Well, you chose to avoid good product because of the stupid ideology. Why stupid? Because you can easily find a reason to hate Google the same or even more (the whole FRAND thing e.g.). OTOH, people are not rational, nothing new here so this love/hate boils down to subjective preferences rationalized a lot. I like Apple because they make damn good products. Damn good products make them damn good money. Google makes m…
the whole FRAND thing Why would I hate Google for that? Motorola was cooperative and competitive with partners and despite all of their innovation they ended up -- like most of their traditional smartphone partners -- with most of their creations ending up in standards. Getting attacked by Apple and Microsoft they try to force a settlement with what they have. there is nothing in that that makes me dislike Motorola c…
Why would I hate Google for that? Motorola was cooperative and competitive with partners and despite all of their innovation they ended up -- like most of their traditional smartphone partners -- with most of their creations ending up in standards. Getting attacked by Apple and Microsoft they try to force a settlement with what they have. there is nothing in that that makes me dislike Motorola cum Google.
Actually, what really did Motorola in was years of getting ripped-off both in design and carrier sales wins by Samsung. Have a good look at the product line that Motorola sold from about 2000-2005. Then look at what Samsung was selling during the same period.
This is just what Samsung does. Good engineering, and let someone else do the design.
The xbox may be blocked because of critical, foundational patents, but I'm supposed to feel bad about the parties because they tried to be cooperative about them. The Galaxy Nexus is blocked because of laughable patents.
Apple's patents are "laughable" and Motorola's are "critical" and "foundational" because you're a software person, not a hardware person. You'll find that a lot of hardware patents, including Motorola's, suffer from the same obviousness when evaluated by EE's that Apple's do when evaluated by SE's.
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#73The elephant in the room is that Samsung did, and is still shamelessly trying to make a carbon copy of the iPhone and the iPad. The similarities go beyond casual coincidences. Right from the charger to the packaging to the layout to .. almost everything. It is so obvious they are doing that. It is no surprise Apple is going after them, and of course they should.
Except that isn't the case for the Galaxy Nexus, which in terms of Samsung phones deviates further from the iPhone than any of their others.
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#74Despicable. That's really the only polite word I have for both Apple's actions, and the current state of our patent system.
Despicable. That's really the only polite word I have for both Apple's actions
What word do you have for things that are actually despicable?
Like actually hurting or killing people?
Or doing things that don't just involve selling telephones?
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#75I believe the original title said Galaxy Nexus. Way to be misleading by implying it's the Nexus 7. Also, people still read Foss Patents, the guy paid by Microsoft and Oracle to write negative stories on Google, and who was completely wrong on anything he said or suggested about the Google and Oracle trial?
Yes people still read FOSS patents because he is the ONLY one actually covering the cases in detail. And I actually find him to be 100x more professional than Groklaw e.g. their latest article, "Another Spanking for Apple From Judge Posner".
It's not his professionalism that's being questioned but his profession...
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#76Sigh. I've been planning on getting a new notebook and was leaning toward one of Apple's products... but this has shifted me away. I know, I know: no one cares about nerd ideologies. But I'll do my part and lower their monthly revenues by 0.00001%.
Ideologies are important. Look at our victory over ACTA.
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#77Earlier quoted context omitted.
Just skimmed the review and that does indeed look like a fine device. Completely unrelated: Why do vendors (including Apple) insist on plastering their ugly company logos on the back? Both the macbook and the zenbook would look much better without that white scar.
Branding in the strongest selling point of Apple products. They may have their flaws, but they're genius in their branding. They put an Apple logo in the back, for the same reason they give out Apple stickers for your car. For the same reason they put "sent from my iphone" at the end of an email. For the same reason their billionaire campaign insisted to "think different". Even their pixel placement choice has brandi…
There is a cut off for that, the moment the market hits a reasonable tipping point on that understanding, they will have to come up with something fantastic. Can't wait.
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#79Earlier quoted context omitted.
the whole FRAND thing Why would I hate Google for that? Motorola was cooperative and competitive with partners and despite all of their innovation they ended up -- like most of their traditional smartphone partners -- with most of their creations ending up in standards. Getting attacked by Apple and Microsoft they try to force a settlement with what they have. there is nothing in that that makes me dislike Motorola c…
This is laughable wrong. Motorola has never been cooperative with Microsoft. They are the ones being the aggressor and have used FRAND patents to do so. They've been nothing but underhanded at every opportunity. And if Google/Motorola are so cooperative then why are the FTC/EU investigating them for anti-competitive behaviour ?
Being investigated and being found guilty are two separate things. Better wait for a conclusion on the process before further inferences.
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#80Earlier quoted context omitted.
the whole FRAND thing Why would I hate Google for that? Motorola was cooperative and competitive with partners and despite all of their innovation they ended up -- like most of their traditional smartphone partners -- with most of their creations ending up in standards. Getting attacked by Apple and Microsoft they try to force a settlement with what they have. there is nothing in that that makes me dislike Motorola c…
This is laughable wrong. Motorola has never been cooperative with Microsoft. They are the ones being the aggressor and have used FRAND patents to do so. They've been nothing but underhanded at every opportunity. And if Google/Motorola are so cooperative then why are the FTC/EU investigating them for anti-competitive behaviour ?
Oh how astonishingly boring.
Microsoft sued Motorola after they couldn't extort them into making uncompetitive Windows Mobile devices. Motorola responded with standards-based patents and non-standards based patents, with the clear intention of trying to get a stalemate settlement. The "cooperative" part was that Motorola has thousands if not tens of thousands of patents that play a part in standards because they are a part of the whole moving things forward.
And if Google/Motorola are so cooperative then why are the FTC/EU investigating them for anti-competitive behaviour ?
Derpedeederp derp. The government investigates almost everything that any large multinational does. There are active investigations of Microsoft, Apple, Google, Oracle....if it's a big company there's probably an investigation of it. Secondly that EXACTLY goes to my original point -- Motorola made the "mistake" of daring to be a good innovation citizen before some upstarts came along and started extorting and patent trolling for every hilariously trivial patent.